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# Note that this leniency only applies if the bottom pot is filled with food and not if it is empty. <ref> | # Note that this leniency only applies if the bottom pot is filled with food and not if it is empty. <ref> | ||
* Shulchan Aruch 318:8 rules that one may place fully cooked cold food on top of another pot on the fire. On the other hand, the S”A 253:3 rules that one may return food on top of an old pot only if the food is still hot and wasn’t placed on the ground, implying that placing food on top of another pot isn’t permitted without the conditions of [[Hachzara]]. The Pri Megadim E”A 253:33 answers that the leniency spoken about in 318:8 only applies if the bottom pot is filled with food, and not if it is empty. Bei’ur Halacha 253:3 s.v. Veyezaher, Chazon Ish 37, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 3:14, and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Kohen; pg 42) agree that the bottom pot must be filled with food. See, however, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 1:91. | * Shulchan Aruch 318:8 rules that one may place fully cooked cold food on top of another pot on the fire. On the other hand, the S”A 253:3 rules that one may return food on top of an old pot only if the food is still hot and wasn’t placed on the ground, implying that placing food on top of another pot isn’t permitted without the conditions of [[Hachzara]]. The Pri Megadim E”A 253:33 answers that the leniency spoken about in 318:8 only applies if the bottom pot is filled with food, and not if it is empty. Bei’ur Halacha 253:3 s.v. Veyezaher, Chazon Ish 37, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 3:14, and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Kohen; pg 42) agree that the bottom pot must be filled with food. See, however, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 1:91. | ||
* See Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chap 1, note 126) who writes that if the empty pot isn't on top of the fire directly but rather on top of a tray which covered the fire, then one may place fully cooked solid food on top of the empty pot because that's considered like a pot on top of a pot. Piskei Teshuvot 253:25 agrees. Also, Orchot [[Shabbat]] (p. 100) writes that some permit placing fully cooked cold food on top of an empty pot on top of an electric hot plate. However, Rav Mordechai Willig in Am Mordechai (p. 30) disagrees because there should be no difference between one blech and two or a flat blech and a crooked blech. </ref> | * See Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chap 1, note 126) who writes that if the empty pot isn't on top of the fire directly but rather on top of a tray which covered the fire, then one may place fully cooked solid food on top of the empty pot because that's considered like a pot on top of a pot. Piskei Teshuvot 253:25 agrees. Also, Orchot [[Shabbat]] (p. 100) writes that some permit placing fully cooked cold food on top of an empty pot on top of an electric hot plate. However, Rav Mordechai Willig in Am Mordechai (p. 30) disagrees because there should be no difference between one blech and two or a flat blech and a crooked blech. </ref> Sephardim are lenient even if the pot is empty.<ref>Halacha Brurah 318:100</ref> | ||
# If the food isn't fully cooked, one may not place the food on top of another pot which is on the fire <Ref> S”A 318:7-8 quotes a dispute whether one may place a pot with cold solids or hot liquids which are Yad Soldet Bo on top of a pot that’s on the fire and rules leniently. Even though the Taz 318:11 writes that it’s permissible even if it’s not fully cooked (but seems to require that the pot will not be able to cook), Mishna Brurah 318:55 rules that the food must be fully cooked based on many Achronim (Bach, Gra, Tosefet [[Shabbat]], Olat [[Shabbat]], Maamer Mordechai, Pri Megadim) who disagree with the Taz 318:9 on a similar issue. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:36 rules like the Mishna Brurah. </ref> unless there's no chance that the pot will reach Yad Soldet Bo if it was left there. <Ref> Beiur Halacha 318:6 s.v. Ad SheTehe, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:36 </ref> | # If the food isn't fully cooked, one may not place the food on top of another pot which is on the fire <Ref> S”A 318:7-8 quotes a dispute whether one may place a pot with cold solids or hot liquids which are Yad Soldet Bo on top of a pot that’s on the fire and rules leniently. Even though the Taz 318:11 writes that it’s permissible even if it’s not fully cooked (but seems to require that the pot will not be able to cook), Mishna Brurah 318:55 rules that the food must be fully cooked based on many Achronim (Bach, Gra, Tosefet [[Shabbat]], Olat [[Shabbat]], Maamer Mordechai, Pri Megadim) who disagree with the Taz 318:9 on a similar issue. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:36 rules like the Mishna Brurah. </ref> unless there's no chance that the pot will reach Yad Soldet Bo if it was left there. <Ref> Beiur Halacha 318:6 s.v. Ad SheTehe, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:36 </ref> | ||
# It’s forbidden to place a pot on top of another pot where the top pot contains food with containing large quantities of congealed fat. However, if there’s only a little congealed fat such that when melted it mixes with the rest of the food it’s permissible. If fat was dissolved it may be eaten. It’s also permitted to dissolve a sauce that is normally eaten in its congealed state such as fish sauce. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:37 </ref> | # It’s forbidden to place a pot on top of another pot where the top pot contains food with containing large quantities of congealed fat. However, if there’s only a little congealed fat such that when melted it mixes with the rest of the food it’s permissible. If fat was dissolved it may be eaten. It’s also permitted to dissolve a sauce that is normally eaten in its congealed state such as fish sauce. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:37 </ref> | ||
===Kedeirah Blech=== | ===Kedeirah Blech=== | ||
# Some say that placing food on a “Kedeirah Blech,” a rectangular box filled with water placed on top of the fire before [[Shabbat]], is the same as placing food on top of a pot on the fire, while others say that it merely like a covered fire, to which one may not return food without fulfilling certain conditions (see the [[#Covered_fire_(Blech)]] section). <Ref> A “Kedeirah Blech” is a covered rectangular metal box containing water that is meant to serve as a “pot” on top of the fire upon which pots can rest. Rav Hershel Schachter (“Hilchos [[Bishul]] B’[[Shabbos]]”, min 56-9) rules that a “Kedeirah Blech” is like a pot on top of a pot and is permissible. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai p. 28), though, argues that since the water inside the “Kedierah Blech” isn’t meant to be consumed, it is not similar to the case of a pot on top of a pot. His opinion is also explained in English in "Cooking and warming food on Shabbat" p. 108. Rabbi Elyashiv (cited by The 39 Melachos [[Bishul]] note #212), Rabbi Belsky (39 Melachos [[Bishul]] note #211; on ouradio.org, [http://www.ouradio.org/ouradio/channel/C2055/ “Cooking on Shabbos- A HOT TOPIC”], min 60-68), and Rabbi Dovid Cohen (oukosher.org) agree. | # Some say that placing food on a “Kedeirah Blech,” a rectangular box filled with water placed on top of the fire before [[Shabbat]], is the same as placing food on top of a pot on the fire, while others say that it merely like a covered fire, to which one may not return food without fulfilling certain conditions (see the [[#Covered_fire_(Blech)]] section). <Ref> A “Kedeirah Blech” is a covered rectangular metal box containing water that is meant to serve as a “pot” on top of the fire upon which pots can rest. Rav Hershel Schachter (“Hilchos [[Bishul]] B’[[Shabbos]]”, min 56-9) rules that a “Kedeirah Blech” is like a pot on top of a pot and is permissible. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai p. 28), though, argues that since the water inside the “Kedierah Blech” isn’t meant to be consumed, it is not similar to the case of a pot on top of a pot. His opinion is also explained in English in "Cooking and warming food on Shabbat" p. 108. Rabbi Elyashiv (cited by The 39 Melachos [[Bishul]] note #212), Rabbi Belsky (39 Melachos [[Bishul]] note #211; on ouradio.org, [http://www.ouradio.org/ouradio/channel/C2055/ “Cooking on Shabbos- A HOT TOPIC”], min 60-68), and Rabbi Dovid Cohen (oukosher.org) agree. | ||
