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# If one started the meal thinking that one was going to have 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] and then changed his mind and couldn’t finish all 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]], one may finish eating based on his original [[HaMotzei]] and concludes with [[Al HaMichya]]. <ref> Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 2:54, Yalkut Yosef ([[Birkat HaMazon]] pg 137). </ref>
# If one started the meal thinking that one was going to have 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] and then changed his mind and couldn’t finish all 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]], one may finish eating based on his original [[HaMotzei]] and concludes with [[Al HaMichya]]. <ref> Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 2:54, Yalkut Yosef ([[Birkat HaMazon]] pg 137). </ref>
# If one made a [[Mezonot]] thinking that one was only going to have a few [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] and then changed his mind to end up having 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]], if one plans on having another 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] one should stop and wash with a bracha and make [[HaMotzei]].  
# If one made a [[Mezonot]] thinking that one was only going to have a few [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] and then changed his mind to end up having 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]], if one plans on having another 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] one should stop and wash with a bracha and make [[HaMotzei]].  
# If one made [[Mezonot]] planning to have a few Kezyitim, and then changes to have another few [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] and in total what he ate will add up to 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] one shouldn’t make any new bracha upon changing one’s mind. However, if one started thinking that one would not have more than a certain amount and now clearly changes his mind about that, one should make a new [[Mezonot]]. Nonetheless, one concludes with [[Birkat HaMazon]]. <ref> Mishna Brurah 168:25 writes that if one changed one’s mind one doesn’t make a new [[HaMotzei]] if one doesn’t plan on eating more than 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]]. Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tzion 168:21) writes that one shouldn’t make a new [[Mezonot]] unless one clearly changed one’s mind such as if when he started he thought that he will not eat more than a certain amount, however, if one didn’t clearly retract his opinion then one doesn’t make a new [[Mezonot]]. </ref>
# If one made [[Mezonot]] planning to have a few Kezyitim, and then changes to have another few [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] and in total what he ate will add up to 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]] one shouldn’t make any new bracha upon changing one’s mind. However, if one started thinking that one would not have more than a certain amount and now clearly changes his mind about that, one should make a new [[Mezonot]]. Nonetheless, one concludes with [[Birkat HaMazon]].<ref> Mishna Brurah 168:25 writes that if one changed one’s mind one doesn’t make a new [[HaMotzei]] if one doesn’t plan on eating more than 8 [[Measurements#Kezayit|Kezayitim]]. Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tzion 168:21) writes that one shouldn’t make a new [[Mezonot]] unless one clearly changed one’s mind such as if when he started he thought that he will not eat more than a certain amount, however, if one didn’t clearly retract his opinion then one doesn’t make a new [[Mezonot]].</ref>
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# In general, the rule is as follows: If one decides, while eating, to eat more than he originally planned, whether or not he should recite Hamotzi depends only on the amount he intends to eat. Contrastingly, reciting Al Ha’michya or Birkat Ha’mazon is determined by the amount one actually eats. <ref>Rabbi Binyomin Forst, The Laws of B’rachos p. 252 </ref>
# In general, the rule is as follows: If one decides, while eating, to eat more than he originally planned, whether or not he should recite Hamotzi depends only on the amount he intends to eat. Contrastingly, reciting Al Ha’michya or Birkat Ha’mazon is determined by the amount one actually eats.<ref>Rabbi Binyomin Forst, The Laws of B’rachos p. 252. Rashba Brachot 42a writes that if one ate a meals worth of pat haba bkisnin even though one didn't originally plan on eating that amount one should recite birkat hamazon.</ref>


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