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# The following foods are called Pas HaBah BeKisnin and if one eats a Shuir Seuda one must make a HaMotzei: Berakas, Hotdog in pastry, cake, cookies, pretzels, crackers, and cereals made from the 5 grains. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 26, chapter 3) </ref> | # The following foods are called Pas HaBah BeKisnin and if one eats a Shuir Seuda one must make a HaMotzei: Berakas, Hotdog in pastry, cake, cookies, pretzels, crackers, and cereals made from the 5 grains. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 26, chapter 3) </ref> | ||
# The following foods are called Tavshil Mezonot and even if one eats a Shuir Seuda one makes a Mezonot: Farina, oatmeal, noodles, rice, soup nuts, farfel, couscous, blintzes, kugel*, and wafers*. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (Chapter 4, pg 26). There he mentions that majority of poskim hold that kugel is Tavshil Mezonot and similarly concerning wafers there’s some doubt in the poskim even though the primary halacha is that it’s Tavshil Mezonot. </ref> | # The following foods are called Tavshil Mezonot and even if one eats a Shuir Seuda one makes a Mezonot: Farina, oatmeal, noodles, rice, soup nuts, farfel, couscous, blintzes, kugel*, and wafers*. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (Chapter 4, pg 26). There he mentions that majority of poskim hold that kugel is Tavshil Mezonot and similarly concerning wafers there’s some doubt in the poskim even though the primary halacha is that it’s Tavshil Mezonot. </ref> | ||
====Egg Matzah==== | ====Egg [[Matzah]]==== | ||
# Egg Matzah which was kneaded with mostly fruit juice or eggs (as opposed to water) is considered Pas Haba BiKisnin. <ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 501, chapter 27) </ref> | # Egg [[Matzah]] which was kneaded with mostly fruit juice or eggs (as opposed to water) is considered Pas Haba BiKisnin. <ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 501, chapter 27) </ref> | ||
====Pancakes==== | ====Pancakes==== | ||
# If the pancakes were made with very little oil (just enough to prevent it from getting burned) then it is considered Pas Haba Bikisnin. If the pancakes were made with a significant amount of oil, there's a doubt whether it's considered Pas Haba Bekisnin or not and so if one intends to eat a the amount of a normal meal (see [[Making a meal on Mezonot]]) one should eat it in a meal. If the pancakes were deep fried then the bracha is Mezonot even if the amount of a normal meal is consumed. <ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 493-4, chapter 27) </ref> | # If the pancakes were made with very little oil (just enough to prevent it from getting burned) then it is considered Pas Haba Bikisnin. If the pancakes were made with a significant amount of oil, there's a doubt whether it's considered Pas Haba Bekisnin or not and so if one intends to eat a the amount of a normal meal (see [[Making a meal on Mezonot]]) one should eat it in a meal. If the pancakes were deep fried then the bracha is Mezonot even if the amount of a normal meal is consumed. <ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 493-4, chapter 27) </ref> | ||
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# The Ashkenazic minhag is to make HaMotzei on Matzeh all year round <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 20), Tzitz Eliezer 11:19. Shevet Halevi 1: in the footnotes to SA 168:8 says one should be machmir and eat as part of a meal. Rav Tzvi [[Pesach]] frank Sh"t Har Tzvi OC 91 says on the small matza-like crackers to say mezonot, and only say hamotzi if you are kovea seuda on matza. </ref> whereas the Sephardic minhag is to make Mezonot and Al HaMichya on Matzah all year round except for [[Pesach]] when one makes HaMotzei and Birkat HaMazon. <ref> Chazon Ovadia Berachot page 61, Sh"t shemesh umagen OC 1:34. This is in accordance with the definition of the Aruch D”H Kesen, quoted by Bet Yosef 168:8 quoting Rav Hai Gaon that pat haba bikisnin is a hard cracker-like bread, quoted in SA 168:8.</ref> Nonetheless, Sephardic authorities add that (for all year-round besides Pesach) those who want to make HaMotzei on Matzah when eaten as a meal (even without 216 grams) can do so and that a God fearing person would always eat Matzah in a meal with real bread. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (Chapter 3, pg 20), Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 168:4), Chazon Ovadyah (Brachot pg 61), Chida in Machazik Beracha 158:5. </ref> | # The Ashkenazic minhag is to make HaMotzei on Matzeh all year round <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 20), Tzitz Eliezer 11:19. Shevet Halevi 1: in the footnotes to SA 168:8 says one should be machmir and eat as part of a meal. Rav Tzvi [[Pesach]] frank Sh"t Har Tzvi OC 91 says on the small matza-like crackers to say mezonot, and only say hamotzi if you are kovea seuda on matza. </ref> whereas the Sephardic minhag is to make Mezonot and Al HaMichya on [[Matzah]] all year round except for [[Pesach]] when one makes HaMotzei and Birkat HaMazon. <ref> Chazon Ovadia Berachot page 61, Sh"t shemesh umagen OC 1:34. This is in accordance with the definition of the Aruch D”H Kesen, quoted by Bet Yosef 168:8 quoting Rav Hai Gaon that pat haba bikisnin is a hard cracker-like bread, quoted in SA 168:8.</ref> Nonetheless, Sephardic authorities add that (for all year-round besides Pesach) those who want to make HaMotzei on [[Matzah]] when eaten as a meal (even without 216 grams) can do so and that a God fearing person would always eat [[Matzah]] in a meal with real bread. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (Chapter 3, pg 20), Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 168:4), Chazon Ovadyah (Brachot pg 61), Chida in Machazik Beracha 158:5. </ref> | ||
# On Motzei [[Pesach]] before people buy back their chametz, the bracha on Matzah is still HaMotzei. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Brachot p 64) </ref> | # On Motzei [[Pesach]] before people buy back their chametz, the bracha on [[Matzah]] is still HaMotzei. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Brachot p 64) </ref> | ||
# If the last day of [[Pesach]] falls out on Friday, then the bracha on Matzah for the Shabbat immediately following [[Pesach]] is Hamotzei.<ref>Or Letzion (vol 3, p. 100) </ref> | # If the last day of [[Pesach]] falls out on Friday, then the bracha on [[Matzah]] for the Shabbat immediately following [[Pesach]] is Hamotzei.<ref>Or Letzion (vol 3, p. 100) </ref> | ||
====Honey Challah==== | ====Honey Challah==== | ||
