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# If a food is made with 100% apple juice according to some Ashkenazic poskim it is still hamotzei.<ref>Shulchan Halevi p. 299 writes that mezonot breads made from 100% apple juice and no water even if the juice isn't from concentrate it is still hamotzei since the apple juice doesn't have a strong taste and is like water.</ref> | # If a food is made with 100% apple juice according to some Ashkenazic poskim it is still hamotzei.<ref>Shulchan Halevi p. 299 writes that mezonot breads made from 100% apple juice and no water even if the juice isn't from concentrate it is still hamotzei since the apple juice doesn't have a strong taste and is like water.</ref> | ||
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# Dough which is filled with sweeteners such as nuts, chocolate, or the like and is cooked together with the dough, and the taste is recognizable, the bracha is [[Mezonot]]. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 168:7, Mishna Brurah 168:33, Vezot HaBracha (pg 19, chapter 3) </ref> | # Dough which is filled with sweeteners such as nuts, chocolate, or the like and is cooked together with the dough, and the taste is recognizable, the bracha is [[Mezonot]]. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 168:7, Mishna Brurah 168:33, Vezot HaBracha (pg 19, chapter 3) </ref> | ||
# | # According to many poskim to be considered pat haba bikisnin, the filling must not be a “meal” food, for example meat, fish, cheese, or vegetables (unless the pastry is clearly made to be eaten as a snack). If it was filled with cheese or meat according to Ashkenazim if the food is always eaten as a snack the bracha is mezonot, but if it is eaten as a meal type food it is mezonot. According to Sephardim it is hamotzei.<ref> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 168:17 writes that dough baked with meat or cheese is considered hamotzei. The achronim ask why it isn't considered pat haba bkisnin. The Taz 168:6 in fact concludes that it should be pat haba bkisnin. However, the Magen Avraham 168:44 suggests that perhaps dough filled with a sweet filling is considered mezonot but dough filled with a meal type food such as cheese or meat makes the resulting food hamotzei. The Mishna Brurah (Biur Halacha 168:17 s.v. pashtida) makes a compromise; if the resulting dough with cheese or meat is considered a snack it is mezonot but if it is a meal type food it is hamotzei. Vezot Habracha ch. | ||
3 p. 20 agrees with the Biur Halacha. Chazon Ovadyah Brachot, pg 60-1, Or Letzion 2:12:5, and Birkat Hashem (vol 2, 2:62) rule like the Magen Avraham. See Ben Ish Chai Pinchas 20 and Halacha Brurah 168:49-50 who are concerned for the Taz.</ref> | |||
===Third Category: Cracker=== | ===Third Category: Cracker=== | ||
