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# [[Mezonot]] that fall into the category of filled dough or crumbling hard dough, if that food is meant to be eaten to fill oneself, one should make a [[HaMotzei]] regardless of how much one ate. However, foods that fall into the category of sweet dough, even if it’s meant to be eaten to satisfy hunger, one should make a [[Mezonot]]. <Ref> S”A 168:17 rules that bread filled with meat or fish has the Bracha of [[HaMotzei]]. Magan Avraham 168:44 explains that this Bracha is made even if one doesn’t have a keviyut sueda because regarding sweets that fill the bread such as fruit there’s room to say that such fillers make the bread into a temporary snack, however, a substantial filler such as meat, fish, or cheese don’t make the bread change from [[HaMotzei]] to [[Mezonot]]. This is also the opinion of the Mishna Brurah 168:94 and Yalkut Yosef ([[Brachot]] pg 125, Kitzur S”A 168:3). However, the Taz 168:20 argues that for filled bread the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] like in S”A 168:7 unless there’s a keviyut sueda. [Interestingly, the Ben Ish Chai (Pinchas 20), Kaf HaChaim 168:137, and Halacha Brurah 168:49 are concerned for the opinion of the Taz and hold that one should make sure to have more than a keviyut sueda, however if one doesn’t have enough and one doesn’t have bread, one should make a [[mezonot]].] The VeZot HaBracha (pg 17 note 1) rules like Mishna Brurah that for bread that’s filled and is meant to fill one up the bracha is [[HaMotzei]]. </ref>

====Mezonot Rolls====

====Pizza====

# Regular pizza (no with fruit juice), according to Sephardim has the Bracha of [[HaMotzei]]. <Ref>  

* Shulchan Aruch 168:17 rules that bread filled with meat or fish has the Bracha of [[HaMotzei]]. The Magan Avraham 168:44 explains the Bracha is [[HaMotzei]] as a filling of meat, fish, or cheese doesn’t change the Bracha on bread and only if there’s a sweet filler such as fruit is it considered [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]]. However, the Taz 168:20 holds that for filled bread the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] just like if it was filled with sweets unless one eats a keviyut sueda. The Mishna Brurah 168:94 and Beiur Halacha s.v. Pashtida rules a compromise that if it's normal to eat the bread filled with meat to satisfy hunger and fill one up the bracha is [[Hamotzei]], however, if there's pieces of meat mixed in and it's recognizable that it's meant as a dessert the bracha is [[Mezonot]].

* Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 499-500, chapter 27) quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach as saying that in America where some people eat it as a snack, it depends on each person's intent.  

* Rav Yisrael Belsky (Mesorah (1989, vol 1, pg 40-1)) writes that the minhag to make [[Mezonot]] on pizza has what to rely on unless a person has it as a meal. [https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.thehalacha.com/attach/Volume3/Issue26.pdf Halachically Speaking (2007, vol 3, issue 26)] quotes Rav Belsky as saying that the minhag is to make [[Mezonot]] on pizza unless they eat a shiur of keviyut [[seudah]]. This is also the position of the [http://www.kof-k.org/articles/040108010457W-29 Pizza and Kevias Seuda.pdf Kof-K].

* This also seems to be the opinion of Rav Dovid Feinstein see [http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/brachos-on-pizza. TheYeshivaWorld.com]. Similarly, the Star K writes that one slice is certainly a snack, three is certainly a meal, and two is questionable but if one eats it with a side dish then it would be considered a keviut [[seudah]] and one should make [[HaMotzei]]. </ref>, whereas others maintain that the Bracha is [[HaMotzei]]. However, all agree if one eats a Shuir Seuda then one should make [[HaMotzei]]. <ref> Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai page 99) rules that even in America the bracha is [[HaMotzei]]. [https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1N_X9Or03WtqrGYxmH4ihquJFMmE9223dznDO3J4ec5m7Sh_2mTjlDfZdikKq&hl=en_US Rabbi Chaim Jachter] quotes Rav Zalman Nechemia Goldberg and Rav Hershel Schachter as having ruled that one slice of pizza is [[HaMotzei]]. (Rabbi Jachter also quotes Rav Belsky as ruling that it was [[Hamotzei]], however, see above sources that write the opposite in the name of Rav Belsky.) This is also the opinion of the [http://www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] that pizza is [[Hamotzei]]. Pitchei Halacha (Laws of [[Brachos]] by Rabbi Binyamin Forst pg 235) finds a very hard time justifying making a [[Mezonot]] on one slice but says that if one has pizza as a meal one should certainly make [[HaMotzei]]. </ref>

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