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# The Mishnah in Avodah Zarah<ref>35b</ref> states the Rabbinic decree that prohibits purchasing bread from a non-Jew, and in fact if one has done so it is forbidden to eat that food. The reason behind this decree is because "breaking bread" creates camaraderie and familiarity between two parties.<ref> Note how the first step to creating any sort of kiruv or even business relationship is usually accomplished through “doing lunch” as eating together has a tremendous ability to bring people close to each other</ref> If the relationship between the Jew and the non-Jew eventually progresses Chazal were concerned that this may end up in an eventual intermarriage and assimilation.<ref> | |||
Y.D. 112:1</ref> | |||
# The buyer should be aware that this decree has nothing to do with the ingredients of which the bread is comprised of. Assuming that all ingredients are kosher<ref> | |||
One should not assume that this is the case merely because bread is “simply made of flour and water”, as there are tens of ingredients that could render a bread product not kosher including oils, shortening, preservatives etc.</ref> one would still be prohibited from buying non-Jewish bread. Although the suspicion of intermarriage may seem a bit far fetched it should be noted that we place considerable stringency on this decree<ref>Darchai Teshuva 112:1</ref> as history has sadly proven that a small breach of separation between Jews and other nations has actually led to such unfortunate results. | |||
# As is with all Rabbinic decrees, once the ''gzaira'' is made, even if the reason behind it is no longer applicable the actual decree still remains intact.<ref>See Rambam Hilchos Mamarim who brings down the concept of having to have a Bais Din of the same number and stature in order to reverse any decree that was enacted</ref> Therefore: | |||
* although the term used in the Mishnah prohibits bread purchased from "''ovdai kochavim''" which literally translates to "worshipers of the stars" one would still not be allowed to buy bread products from Muslims<ref> | * although the term used in the Mishnah prohibits bread purchased from "''ovdai kochavim''" which literally translates to "worshipers of the stars" one would still not be allowed to buy bread products from Muslims<ref> | ||
Rav Pe'alim Y.D. 3:10</ref> (who do not have the status of idol worshipers) | |||
* bread from any non-Jew would be prohibited regardless of their belief in any foreign image | * bread from any non-Jew would be prohibited regardless of their belief in any foreign image | ||
* one may not buy bread products from a priest or nun, both whom are assumed to not have any children | * one may not buy bread products from a priest or nun, both whom are assumed to not have any children | ||
* even if the non-Jew baking the bread is childless one would still not be allowed to purchase his products | * even if the non-Jew baking the bread is childless one would still not be allowed to purchase his products | ||
==Bread from a non-Jewish baker== | |||
# Assuming that the ingredients are all kosher one would technically be allowed to buy their bread<ref> | # Assuming that the ingredients are all kosher one would technically be allowed to buy their bread<ref> | ||
| Pischai Teshuva 112:1 </ref> as although their religious observance may be lacking this does not mean that one may not marry their children who may be of fine repute. Although there are many who hold that one should actually refrain from buying such bread products, all hold that if the baker in question is a "''tinuk sh'nishba''"<ref> | | Pischai Teshuva 112:1 </ref> as although their religious observance may be lacking this does not mean that one may not marry their children who may be of fine repute. Although there are many who hold that one should actually refrain from buying such bread products, all hold that if the baker in question is a "''tinuk sh'nishba''"<ref> | ||
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==Types of bread products== | |||
# Included in this prohibition are any bread product that | # Included in this prohibition are any bread product that | ||
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==If Pat Yisrael is available== | |||
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|'''#''' In that situation it depends on who is dealing with the question. If it is an Ashkanazi then one may rely on the Rema<ref> | |'''#''' In that situation it depends on who is dealing with the question. If it is an Ashkanazi then one may rely on the Rema<ref> | ||
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## is in a place where there are no Jewish bakeries | ## is in a place where there are no Jewish bakeries | ||
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he would be allowed to eat ''Pas Paltur'' bread products. | he would be allowed to eat ''Pas Paltur'' bread products. | ||
==How would one circumvent all ''''''''Pat Paltur'' ''''''issues== | |||
# In a situation where either the Yisroel | # In a situation where either the Yisroel | ||
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then one can assume that for all practical purposes this bread product is ''Pas Yisroel''. This allows for many manufactured products to be ''Pas Yisroel'' even without a full time mashgiach. | then one can assume that for all practical purposes this bread product is ''Pas Yisroel''. This allows for many manufactured products to be ''Pas Yisroel'' even without a full time mashgiach. | ||
==During ''''''''Aseret Yemei Teshuva''''''''== | |||
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