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# Since we fulfill the mitzva of arba minim by simply lifting them together <ref> Sukka 42a </ref> it’s preferable to follow one of the following so that you say the beracha and then do the mitzva. Either | # Since we fulfill the mitzva of arba minim by simply lifting them together <ref> Sukka 42a </ref> it’s preferable to follow one of the following so that you say the beracha and then do the mitzva. Either | ||
* take the lulav (including the Hadashim and Aravot) in one’s right hand, leave the Etrog on the Table (out of the box) <ref> As the rambam says in Hilchot Succa 7:5 the taking of the daled minim are all one mitzva and are miakev each other (meaning taking 3 without the 4th doesn't fulfill anything.) therefore, until you take the etrog you haven't fulfilled your obligation, then you say the beracha, and then fulfill your obligation. </ref> | * take the lulav (including the Hadashim and Aravot) in one’s right hand, leave the Etrog on the Table (out of the box) <ref> As the rambam says in Hilchot Succa 7:5 the taking of the daled minim are all one mitzva and are miakev each other (meaning taking 3 without the 4th doesn't fulfill anything.) therefore, until you take the etrog you haven't fulfilled your obligation, then you say the beracha, and then fulfill your obligation. </ref> | ||
* or take the Lulav in one’s right hand, and Etrog in one’s left hand while the Etrog is upside down <ref> Holding the etrog upside down allows you not to fulfill your obligation until you flip it over because the gemara succa 45b that in order to fulfill the mitzva of taking the daled minim all four have to be held kiderech gideilatan"-the way in which they grow. </ref> | * or take the Lulav in one’s right hand, and Etrog in one’s left hand while the Etrog is upside down <ref> Holding the etrog upside down allows you not to fulfill your obligation until you flip it over because the gemara succa 45b that in order to fulfill the mitzva of taking the daled minim all four have to be held kiderech gideilatan"-the way in which they grow. Mishna Berura 652:16 says you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> | ||
* or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha. <ref> This works because even if we say mitzvot don't need kavana to be yotze most poskim agree that kavana not to be yotze doesn't fulfill your obligation. (Bet Yosef 589 and S”A 6:4.) </ref> | * or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha. <ref> This works because even if we say mitzvot don't need kavana to be yotze most poskim agree that kavana not to be yotze doesn't fulfill your obligation. (Bet Yosef 589 and S”A 6:4.) </ref> | ||
and then make the Bracha. <ref> All three suggestions are made by tosafot in Succa 39a "over". S”A 651:5 suggests the first two suggestions, while the Mishna Brurah 651:25 quotes the Bet Yosef who brings the third option and quotes the Gra as saying that the third option is the most preferable. The Mishna Brurah makes no mention of which option is preferable. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14) also brings all three opinions and doesn’t decide on which is most preferable. </ref> | and then make the Bracha. <ref> All three suggestions are made by tosafot in Succa 39a "over". S”A 651:5 suggests the first two suggestions, while the Mishna Brurah 651:25 quotes the Bet Yosef who brings the third option and quotes the Gra as saying that the third option is the most preferable. The Mishna Brurah makes no mention of which option is preferable. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14) also brings all three opinions and doesn’t decide on which is most preferable. </ref> | ||
# After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet. <Ref> Rosh Succa 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11 Mishna Brurah 651:27 and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20extends it to the entire hallel and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your lulav you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion. </ref> | # After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet. <Ref> Rosh Succa 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11 Mishna Brurah 651:27 and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20extends it to the entire hallel and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your lulav you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion. </ref> | ||
==How to hold them== | |||
#One should hold the lulav (aravot and hadasim included) in the right hand and the etrog in his left hand. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Berura 15 explains that this is because the lulav, aravot, and hadasim have three parts of the mitzva while the etrog is only one. </ref> | |||
#For people who's left hand is the stronger one, | |||
*Sephardim should hold it as if they were right handed and hold the lulav in the right and etrog in the left. | |||
*Ashkenazim should switch it and hold the lulav in the left hand and etrog in the right hand. <ref> This is based on a machloket Shulchan Aruch and Rama (quoting the Rosh and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. </ref> | |||
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