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Based on the pasuk ולקחתם לכם ביום הראשון פרי עץ הדר כפות תמרים וענף עץ עבות וערבי נחל "And you shall take on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook," we learn that we need to take one lulav, one etrog, three hadasim and two aravot.<ref> Succa 34b based on Vayikra 23:40. Shulchan Aruch 651:1 </ref> | Based on the pasuk ולקחתם לכם ביום הראשון פרי עץ הדר כפות תמרים וענף עץ עבות וערבי נחל "And you shall take on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook," we learn that we need to take one lulav, one etrog, three hadasim and two [[aravot]].<ref> Succa 34b based on Vayikra 23:40. Shulchan Aruch 651:1 </ref> | ||
==Who is Obligated== | ==Who is Obligated== | ||
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#It is a mitzva to tie the lulav together, but if you don't it is still kosher. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1. Mishna Berura 651:8 explains although we don't hold like the shita of Rabbi Yehuda on Succa 11b who says that you need to tie it together, there is still the mitzva of hiddur mitzva from the pasuk of זֶה אֵלִי וְאַנְוֵהוּ. Yalkut Yosef Moadim 159, Chazon Ovadia Succot 340 </ref> | #It is a mitzva to tie the lulav together, but if you don't it is still kosher. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1. Mishna Berura 651:8 explains although we don't hold like the shita of Rabbi Yehuda on Succa 11b who says that you need to tie it together, there is still the mitzva of hiddur mitzva from the pasuk of זֶה אֵלִי וְאַנְוֵהוּ. Yalkut Yosef Moadim 159, Chazon Ovadia Succot 340 </ref> | ||
#Sephardim should tie the three together with lulav leaves in three places using double knots, <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1,Chazon Ovadia Succot 342 quotes the Sefer Yiraim 124 also and says that is the custom. He also quotes the Chatam Sofer Succa 36b as saying that since the mitzva of hiddur is objective based on what the torah told us, we should only use the double knots made of lulav leaves and not use the handles that they have nowadays. Mishna Berura 651:14 quotes the Mordechai explaining that these three ties are representative of the three patriarchs </ref> while Ashkenazim generally use the woven holder made of lulav leaves that has holes for the three minim, in addition to the three ties. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:8 quoting the Shu"t Agura Biohalecha (12:273). Tzitz Eliezer 13:43 agrees to this as well. </ref> | #Sephardim should tie the three together with lulav leaves in three places using double knots, <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1,Chazon Ovadia Succot 342 quotes the Sefer Yiraim 124 also and says that is the custom. He also quotes the Chatam Sofer Succa 36b as saying that since the mitzva of hiddur is objective based on what the torah told us, we should only use the double knots made of lulav leaves and not use the handles that they have nowadays. Mishna Berura 651:14 quotes the Mordechai explaining that these three ties are representative of the three patriarchs </ref> while Ashkenazim generally use the woven holder made of lulav leaves that has holes for the three minim, in addition to the three ties. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:8 quoting the Shu"t Agura Biohalecha (12:273). Tzitz Eliezer 13:43 agrees to this as well. </ref> | ||
#The minimum length for the lulav is four tefachim, and the minimum length for hadasim and aravot is three tefachim. There is no maximum length, however, if your hadasim or aravot are longer than 3 than your lulav has to remain at least a tefach taller so that at least part of it will shake recognizably. <ref> Succa 32b with Ritva, Ran, and Meiri there. Rambam Hilchot Succa 7:8 agrees too. </ref> | #The minimum length for the lulav is four tefachim, and the minimum length for hadasim and [[aravot]] is three tefachim. There is no maximum length, however, if your hadasim or [[aravot]] are longer than 3 than your lulav has to remain at least a tefach taller so that at least part of it will shake recognizably. <ref> Succa 32b with Ritva, Ran, and Meiri there. Rambam Hilchot Succa 7:8 agrees too. </ref> | ||
# One should make sure to tie it up so that the [[Hadasim]] are above the Aravot. <Ref>Rama 651:1, Natai Gavriel 40:8, Chazon Ovadyah (Sukkot pg 343-4) </ref> | # One should make sure to tie it up so that the [[Hadasim]] are above the Aravot. <Ref>Rama 651:1, Natai Gavriel 40:8, Chazon Ovadyah (Sukkot pg 343-4) </ref> | ||
#It is preferable not to have a non-jew tie them together for you, but if he does it is still kosher. <ref> Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 159 </ref> | #It is preferable not to have a non-jew tie them together for you, but if he does it is still kosher. <ref> Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 159 </ref> | ||
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==How to hold them== | ==How to hold them== | ||
#We need to hold the arba minim right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref> Succa 45b. Mishna Berura 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot Succa page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> | #We need to hold the arba minim right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref> Succa 45b. Mishna Berura 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot Succa page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> | ||
# One should hold the lulav (aravot and hadasim included) in the right hand and the etrog in his left hand. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Berura 15 explains that this is because the lulav, aravot, and hadasim have three parts of the mitzva while the etrog is only one. </ref> | # One should hold the lulav ([[aravot]] and hadasim included) in the right hand and the etrog in his left hand. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Berura 15 explains that this is because the lulav, [[aravot]], and hadasim have three parts of the mitzva while the etrog is only one. </ref> | ||
#The minhag is that the spine of the lulav should be facing towards the person shaking it. <ref> Chazon Ovadia Succot 358, Ben Ish Chai Haazinu 13 against the Eliyah Rabba 650 and the Orchot Chaim 23 quoting the Raavad who say that the spine should be facing away from him </ref> | #The minhag is that the spine of the lulav should be facing towards the person shaking it. <ref> Chazon Ovadia Succot 358, Ben Ish Chai Haazinu 13 against the Eliyah Rabba 650 and the Orchot Chaim 23 quoting the Raavad who say that the spine should be facing away from him </ref> | ||
# For people who's left hand is the stronger one, | # For people who's left hand is the stronger one, | ||
