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==Naanuim (Shaking of the Lulav)==
==Naanuim (Shaking of the Lulav)==
We shake the lulav at before hallel when we first say the beracha and take the arba minim, then in hallel at the first hodu once, the anna hashem once twice, and the second hodu once. <ref> Even though the mishnah in succa 37b doesn't mention any before hallel, Tosefot there "bihodu" adds that we should shake before also. Shulchan Aruch 651:8 and Chazon Ovadia Succot 356 both agree to this. </ref> Ashkenazim have the custom that the chazzan shakes in yomru na also, and the congregation shake for all four hodu's that they say after the chazzan says his part, and the two hodus at the end of hallel. <ref> Rama 651:8 and Mishna Berura 41. </ref>
#Sephardim shake the lulav before hallel when they first say the beracha and take the arba minim, then in hallel at the first hodu once, at anna hashem twice, and the second hodu once. <ref> Even though the mishnah in succa 37b doesn't mention any before hallel, Tosefot there "bihodu" adds that we should shake before also. Shulchan Aruch 651:8 and Chazon Ovadia Succot 356 both agree to this.</ref>  
#In addition to the times that sephardim shake, Ashkenazim have the custom that the chazzan shakes in yomru na also, and the congregation shake for all four hodu's that they say after the chazzan says his part, and the two hodus at the end of hallel. <ref> Rama 651:8 and Mishna Berura 41. </ref>
#Sephardim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.) <ref> Chazon Ovadia 352-353 paskins like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref> One should turn his body and face the direction to which he is shaking. <ref> Bikkurei Yaakov 651:36 quoting the Ar as well as the Kaf Hachayim 651:96 </ref>
#Sephardim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.) <ref> Chazon Ovadia 352-353 paskins like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref> One should turn his body and face the direction to which he is shaking. <ref> Bikkurei Yaakov 651:36 quoting the Ar as well as the Kaf Hachayim 651:96 </ref>
#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:47 </ref> You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the lulav towards that direction while facing forward. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:37 quoting the Magen Avraham and the Maamar Mordechai. </ref>
#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:47 </ref> You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the lulav towards that direction while facing forward. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:37 quoting the Magen Avraham and the Maamar Mordechai. </ref>