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* or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha. <ref> This works because even if we say mitzvot don't need kavana to be yotze most poskim agree that kavana not to be yotze doesn't fulfill your obligation. (Bet Yosef 589 and S”A 6:4.) </ref>
* or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha. <ref> This works because even if we say mitzvot don't need kavana to be yotze most poskim agree that kavana not to be yotze doesn't fulfill your obligation. (Bet Yosef 589 and S”A 6:4.) </ref>
and then make the Bracha. <ref>  All three suggestions are made by tosafot in Succa 39a "over". S”A 651:5 suggests the first two suggestions, while the Mishna Brurah 651:25 quotes the Bet Yosef who brings the third option and quotes the Gra as saying that the third option is the most preferable. The Mishna Brurah makes no mention of which option is preferable. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14) also brings all three opinions and doesn’t decide on which is most preferable. </ref>
and then make the Bracha. <ref>  All three suggestions are made by tosafot in Succa 39a "over". S”A 651:5 suggests the first two suggestions, while the Mishna Brurah 651:25 quotes the Bet Yosef who brings the third option and quotes the Gra as saying that the third option is the most preferable. The Mishna Brurah makes no mention of which option is preferable. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14) also brings all three opinions and doesn’t decide on which is most preferable. </ref>
# After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet. <Ref> Rosh Succa 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11 Mishna Brurah 651:27 and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20extends it to the entire hallel and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your lulav you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion. </ref>  
# After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet. <Ref> Rosh Succa 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11 Mishna Brurah 651:27 and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20 extends it to the entire hallel and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your lulav you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion. </ref>  


==Set up of the Arba Minim==
==Set up of the Arba Minim==
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#We need to hold the arba minim right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref> Succa 45b. Mishna Berura 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot Succa page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref>
#We need to hold the arba minim right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref> Succa 45b. Mishna Berura 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot Succa page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref>
# One should hold the lulav (aravot and hadasim included) in the right hand and the etrog in his left hand. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Berura 15 explains that this is because the lulav, aravot, and hadasim have three parts of the mitzva while the etrog is only one. </ref>  
# One should hold the lulav (aravot and hadasim included) in the right hand and the etrog in his left hand. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Berura 15 explains that this is because the lulav, aravot, and hadasim have three parts of the mitzva while the etrog is only one. </ref>  
#Minhag is that the spine of the lulav is facing towards the person shaking it. <ref> Chazon Ovadia Succot 358
# For people who's left hand is the stronger one,
# For people who's left hand is the stronger one,
*Sephardim should hold it as if they were right handed and hold the lulav in the right and etrog in the left. <ref> Tur 651, Shulchan Aruch 651:3. </ref>
*Sephardim should hold it as if they were right handed and hold the lulav in the right and etrog in the left. <ref> Tur 651, Shulchan Aruch 651:3. </ref>
*Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the lulav in the left hand and etrog in the right hand. <ref> Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. </ref>  
*Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the lulav in the left hand and etrog in the right hand. <ref> Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. </ref>  
#One should hobld the arba minim against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref>
#One should hold the arba minim against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref>


==Naanuim (Shaking of the Lulav)==
==Naanuim (Shaking of the Lulav)==
#Sephardim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.) <ref> Chazon Ovadia 352-353 paskins like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref>
We shake the lulav at before hallel when we first say the beracha and take the arba minim, then in hallel at the first hodu once, the anna hashem once twice, and the second hodu once. <ref> Even though the mishnah in succa 37b doesn't mention any before hallel, Tosefot there "bihodu" adds that we should shake before also. Shulchan Aruch 651:8 and Chazon Ovadia Succot 356 both agree to this. </ref> Ashkenazim have the custom that the chazzan shakes in yomru na also, and the congregation shake for all four hodu's that they say after the chazzan says his part, and the two hodus at the end of hallel. <ref> Rama 651:8 and Mishna Berura 41. </ref>
#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the lulav towars that direction while facing forward. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:47 </ref>  
#Sephardim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.) <ref> Chazon Ovadia 352-353 paskins like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref> One should turn his body and face the direction to which he is shaking. <ref> Bikkurei Yaakov 651:36 quoting the Ar as well as the Kaf Hachayim 651:96 </ref>
#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:47 </ref> You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the lulav towards that direction while facing forward. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:37 quoting the Magen Avraham and the Maamar Mordechai. </ref>
#One should refrain from shaking while mentioning the name of Hashem lest he become distracted while saying His name. <ref> Mishna Berura 651:37 </ref>


==After Sukkot==
==After Sukkot==