Order of Taking the Four Minim: Difference between revisions

#Sephardim shake the [[lulav]] before [[hallel]] when they first say the bracha and take the [[arba minim]], then in [[hallel]] at the first hodu once, at anna hashem twice, and the second hodu once. <ref>Even though the mishnah in sukka 37b doesn't mention any before [[hallel]], Tosefot there "bihodu" adds that we should shake before also. Shulchan Aruch 651:8 and Chazon Ovadia [[sukkot]] 356 both agree to this.</ref>

#In addition to the times that Sephardim shake, Ashkenazim have the custom that the chazzan shakes in yomru na also, and the congregation shake for all four hodu's that they say after the chazzan says his part. Ashkenazim also shake at both of the final two hodus at the end of [[hallel|hallel.]]<ref>Rama 651:8 and Mishna Brurah 41. </ref> (This is typical of Nusach Ashkenaz, while Nusach Sfard typically did not shake at the first of those two).

 

#Sephardim and Chasidim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.)<ref>Chazon Ovadia 352-353 rules like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref> One should turn his body and face the direction to which he is shaking.<ref>Bikkurei Yaakov 651:36 quoting the Ari as well as the Kaf Hachayim 651:96 </ref>

#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. Face forward and shake clockwise.<ref>Maharil, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:10, Mishna Brurah 651:47. There is a third ordering of directions to shake the lulav that is not common. That is the opinion of Levush 651 that the order is: east, north, west, south, up, down.</ref> You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the [[lulav]] towards that direction while facing forward.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:37 quoting the Magen Avraham and the Maamar Mordechai. </ref>

# If someone is in a shul that has a minhag to shake in a certain direction he should follow their practice.<ref>Orchot Rabbenu v. 3 p. 91, Chazon Ovadia Sukkah p. 355. Chazon Ovadia quotes all the reasons that it isn't necessary to have one practice in this case but concludes that it is proper to establish one practice for each community.</ref> Some are lenient and don't consider it [[Lo Titgodedu]].<ref>Piskei Teshuvot 651:13 based on Aruch Hashulchan 651:22</ref>