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## If one forgot to tie the 3 minim before Yom Tov it is permitted to bind them with a pre-made lulav ring.<ref>Bikkurei Yacov 651:8</ref> However, it is forbidden to tie a lulav ring on Yom Tov. <ref>Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref>
## If one forgot to tie the 3 minim before Yom Tov it is permitted to bind them with a pre-made lulav ring.<ref>Bikkurei Yacov 651:8</ref> However, it is forbidden to tie a lulav ring on Yom Tov. <ref>Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref>


==How to hold them==
==How to Hold Them==
[[Image:Rav Mordechai Eliyahu Lulav.jpg|200px|right]]
[[Image:Rav Mordechai Eliyahu Lulav.jpg|200px|right]]
#We need to hold the [[arba minim]] right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref> sukka 45b. Mishna Brurah 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot sukka page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> The species shouldn't be turned downward when shaking in the downward direction, they should always be held upright and the shaking should be towards that direction.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 651:47, Chazon Ovadia p. 341</ref>
#We need to hold the [[arba minim]] right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref> sukka 45b. Mishna Brurah 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot sukka page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> The species shouldn't be turned downward when shaking in the downward direction, they should always be held upright and the shaking should be towards that direction.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 651:47, Chazon Ovadia p. 341</ref>
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#One should refrain from shaking while mentioning the name of Hashem lest he become distracted while saying His name. <ref> Mishna Brurah 651:37, Kaf Hachayim 651:84, Chazon Ovadia 655 </ref>
#One should refrain from shaking while mentioning the name of Hashem lest he become distracted while saying His name. <ref> Mishna Brurah 651:37, Kaf Hachayim 651:84, Chazon Ovadia 655 </ref>
# Some have the minhag to shake the lulav after reciting the bracha in the Sukkah.<Ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=67781 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Haazinu 5779 min. 6)] explains that his father never took the lulav to shake it in the Sukkah.</ref>
# Some have the minhag to shake the lulav after reciting the bracha in the Sukkah.<Ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=67781 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Haazinu 5779 min. 6)] explains that his father never took the lulav to shake it in the Sukkah.</ref>
==Borrowing without Permission==
# One may borrow a lulav and etrog without asking permission. Since it is a mitzva and the risk of damage is low, we can assume that the owner would allow it.<ref>Rama 649:5 based on Terumat Hadeshen 100, Pri Megadim MZ 649:7, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 66 </ref> However, if the one knows that the owner is meticulous about his, or circumstances dictate that he probably is such as it is meticulously wrapped or put away n a private locker, one should not use it without permission.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 67</ref> This refers to the later days of Sukkot, However, on the first day (or first two outside of Israel) one does not fulfill his obligation with a borrowed lulav, even if it is with permission.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 649:2, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 67 </ref>
# Even a woman may borrow a lulav without permission, even though she is not obligated to do perform the mitzva, since she is permitted to volunteer.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 66, Shu"t Igrot Moshe OC 2:106 </ref>
# One should not borrow an etrog that is on sale, because the seller probably does not want them to be used.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 67, Shu"t Igrot Moshe OC 2:107</ref>


==After [[Sukkot]]==
==After [[Sukkot]]==
#The [[arba minim]] don't retain their holiness after [[sukkot]], but it still should not be treated disrespectfully like being thrown into the garbage. It is permissible though to leave them somewhere even if you know somebody else will throw them in the garbage.<ref> Mishna Brurah 21:6-7. Although the shulchan aruch siman 21, is referring to old [[tzitzit]], Mishna Brurah 21:1 extends it to all items used for a mitzva. </ref> One who shows extra care by burying articles used for mitzvot, will receive beracha. <ref> Rama 21:1 </ref>
#The [[arba minim]] don't retain their holiness after [[sukkot]], but it still should not be treated disrespectfully like being thrown into the garbage. It is permissible though to leave them somewhere even if you know somebody else will throw them in the garbage.<ref> Mishna Brurah 21:6-7, [https://www.ou.org/holidays/sukkot/halacha-lmaaseh-on-arba-minim/ OU.org], [https://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/4476/shaimos-guidelines/ Star-K]. Although the Shulchan Aruch 21:1, is referring to old [[tzitzit]], Mishna Brurah 21:1 extends it to all items used for a mitzva including a lulav. </ref> One who shows extra care by burying articles used for mitzvot, will receive beracha. <ref> Rama 21:1 </ref>
#There are several other customs that people have to do with their [[arba minim]]. <ref> Most of these are based on [[Shabbat]] 117b which says that Rabbi Ami and Rabbi Asi would make a meal out of the bread used for the eruv, because it was already used for a mitzva. </ref>
#There are several other customs that people have to do with their [[arba minim]]. <ref> Most of these are based on [[Shabbat]] 117b which says that Rabbi Ami and Rabbi Asi would make a meal out of the bread used for the eruv, because it was already used for a mitzva. </ref>
*Burn the [[lulav]] in the oven baking the matzas. <ref> Rama 664:9 </ref>
*Burn the [[lulav]] in the oven baking the matzas. <ref> Rama 664:9 </ref>