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#Even among those who are strict, many permit opening a bottle with a plastic bottle cap because it had the form of a cap before it was ever attached and therefore separating the ring doesn't create a new utensil.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:17 (new edition 9:18), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 184-6), and 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841). 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841) writes that a less preferable option is to twist off the cap and discard it immediately and it may be useful to have another cap handy. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach explains that it is forbidden to open a bottle cap for the first time on Shabbos because in the process one is creating a new kli, i.e. a bottle cap that can now be used to cover bottles. While it was attached to the bottle it was not yet a kli, because it could not be screwed on and off of a bottle, which Rav Shlomo Zalman considers the key function of a bottle cap. (Minchas Shlomo 2:32) Also, if one was to break the bottle and slide off the cap as is, without breaking off the ring, it would not be functional as a cap at all. (Minchas Shlomo 1:91:12)<br /> However, Rav Shlomo Zalman distinguishes between a metal bottle cap and a plastic bottle cap. The above issues are all in regards to a metal bottle cap. A plastic bottle cap is different, because the ring is thinner, and majority of it is not attached to the cap. Therefore, it is recognizable that the ring is a separate entity from the cap itself and is meant to be removed. Based on this, Rav Shlomo Zalman paskins that it is forbidden to open metal bottle caps and permitted to open plastic bottle caps.<br /> Rav Ribiat thinks that the plastic caps that Rav Shlomo Zalman allows, which were from Eretz Yisrael, are different from the plastic caps that we have in America. (39 Melachos Makeh B’Patish footnote 96c). See Meor HaShabbos page 482 who offers a new leniency for plastic caps after researching the production of plastic soda bottles.</ref> | #Even among those who are strict, many permit opening a bottle with a plastic bottle cap because it had the form of a cap before it was ever attached and therefore separating the ring doesn't create a new utensil.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:17 (new edition 9:18), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 184-6), and 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841). 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841) writes that a less preferable option is to twist off the cap and discard it immediately and it may be useful to have another cap handy. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach explains that it is forbidden to open a bottle cap for the first time on Shabbos because in the process one is creating a new kli, i.e. a bottle cap that can now be used to cover bottles. While it was attached to the bottle it was not yet a kli, because it could not be screwed on and off of a bottle, which Rav Shlomo Zalman considers the key function of a bottle cap. (Minchas Shlomo 2:32) Also, if one was to break the bottle and slide off the cap as is, without breaking off the ring, it would not be functional as a cap at all. (Minchas Shlomo 1:91:12)<br /> However, Rav Shlomo Zalman distinguishes between a metal bottle cap and a plastic bottle cap. The above issues are all in regards to a metal bottle cap. A plastic bottle cap is different, because the ring is thinner, and majority of it is not attached to the cap. Therefore, it is recognizable that the ring is a separate entity from the cap itself and is meant to be removed. Based on this, Rav Shlomo Zalman paskins that it is forbidden to open metal bottle caps and permitted to open plastic bottle caps.<br /> Rav Ribiat thinks that the plastic caps that Rav Shlomo Zalman allows, which were from Eretz Yisrael, are different from the plastic caps that we have in America. (39 Melachos Makeh B’Patish footnote 96c). See Meor HaShabbos page 482 who offers a new leniency for plastic caps after researching the production of plastic soda bottles. | ||
* Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2102 quotes Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Yisrael Belsky (cited in Halacha Brurah 17 fnt. 38) in the name of Rav Moshe saying that it is forbidden even for plastic bottle caps.</ref> | |||
#Some poskim are strict even with plastic caps.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Orchos Shabbos Perek 12 footnote 31 says that they are all assur to open. Rav Elyashiv holds it’s forbidden to open both metal and plastic caps because of mechateich. Also, Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani in Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:37) says that even by plastic there is an issue of metakein kli. </ref> | #Some poskim are strict even with plastic caps.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Orchos Shabbos Perek 12 footnote 31 says that they are all assur to open. Rav Elyashiv holds it’s forbidden to open both metal and plastic caps because of mechateich. Also, Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani in Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:37) says that even by plastic there is an issue of metakein kli. </ref> | ||
