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#It's permissible to rip open a miniature pack of sugar which is thrown out right after it's opened. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:4, Tiferet 314:3 citing Or Letzion 2:27:7 and Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 5 p. 365 </ref> Similarly, one may rip open a candy wrapper, bandaid wrapper, plastic or paper seal around wine bottles or jars because these are usually ripped and discarded immediately. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 833). Chazon Ish (51:11) says that even if you have intent to throw it out, it’s still forbidden because you might end up using it. Additionally, if you don’t empty it right away, the bag acts as a kli in regards to its contents. Finally, the Chazon Ish suggests that your intent is irrelevant; in the end of the day, you’re still making a kli. It should be noted that Minchas Yitzchak 4:82:36 believes that the Chazon Ish was only talking about when you specifically have intent to not throw it out, but he would actually agree that if it is generally thrown out, it would be permitted.<br /> </ref> | #It's permissible to rip open a miniature pack of sugar which is thrown out right after it's opened. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:4, Tiferet 314:3 citing Or Letzion 2:27:7 and Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 5 p. 365 </ref> Similarly, one may rip open a candy wrapper, bandaid wrapper, plastic or paper seal around wine bottles or jars because these are usually ripped and discarded immediately. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 833). Chazon Ish (51:11) says that even if you have intent to throw it out, it’s still forbidden because you might end up using it. Additionally, if you don’t empty it right away, the bag acts as a kli in regards to its contents. Finally, the Chazon Ish suggests that your intent is irrelevant; in the end of the day, you’re still making a kli. It should be noted that Minchas Yitzchak 4:82:36 believes that the Chazon Ish was only talking about when you specifically have intent to not throw it out, but he would actually agree that if it is generally thrown out, it would be permitted.<br /> </ref> If one intends to reuse a snack bag then opening it is forbidden. <ref> Hazon Ovadia, Volume 5, Page 375 </ref> | ||
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*The Chazon Ish 51:11 held it is [[boneh]] to open a can and make it useful. | *The Chazon Ish 51:11 held it is [[boneh]] to open a can and make it useful. | ||
*Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 1:122) holds that in theory if the can is intended to be discarded after its contents are removed then it is like a mere wrapper and not a bona fide kli. Nonetheless, he forbade opening them on Shabbat. See there for his reasons. | *Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 1:122) holds that in theory if the can is intended to be discarded after its contents are removed then it is like a mere wrapper and not a bona fide kli. Nonetheless, he forbade opening them on Shabbat. See there for his reasons. | ||
*Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2115 quotes many who forbid opening soda cans including Rav Moshe Feinstein (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky (Haarot Bhlacha 2:45), Rav Sheinberg (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Elyashiv (Orchot Shabbat 11:61, Ashrei Haish 2:31:14), Rav Wosner (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), Chut Shani v. 2 p. 274, Shulchan Halevi 8:8, Rav Nevinsal responsa 293:130, and Megilat Sefer 14:4. They also cite Rav Shlomo Zalman (Minchat Shlomo 2:12) and Even Yisrael (Pitchei Halacha 2:45) as lenient.</ref> | *Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank (Tel Harim Makeh Bpatish 3) forbids opening a metal can. Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2115 quotes many who forbid opening soda cans including Rav Moshe Feinstein (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky (Haarot Bhlacha 2:45), Rav Sheinberg (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Elyashiv (Orchot Shabbat 11:61, Ashrei Haish 2:31:14), Rav Wosner (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), Chut Shani v. 2 p. 274, Shulchan Halevi 8:8, Rav Nevinsal responsa 293:130, and Megilat Sefer 14:4. They also cite Rav Shlomo Zalman (Minchat Shlomo 2:12) and Even Yisrael (Pitchei Halacha 2:45) as lenient.</ref> | ||
#Sepharadim may open cans as long as it is meant for one-time use.<ref> Chazon Ovadia, Volume 5, Page 375 </ref> | |||
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