Opening Bottles, Cans, and Packages: Difference between revisions
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* See also Rabbi Mordechai Willig’s opinion in Am Mordechai ([[Shabbat]], Siman 29, pg 161). Rav Willig agrees that it is permitted. The bottle cap was a kli even before you broke off the ring, and the issur metakein kli is only when you create a kli, not when you merely alter the function of a preexisting kli. (Am Mordechai Siman 29:3) | * See also Rabbi Mordechai Willig’s opinion in Am Mordechai ([[Shabbat]], Siman 29, pg 161). Rav Willig agrees that it is permitted. The bottle cap was a kli even before you broke off the ring, and the issur metakein kli is only when you create a kli, not when you merely alter the function of a preexisting kli. (Am Mordechai Siman 29:3) | ||
* Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2100 quotes many who are lenient even with opening metal caps including: Even Yisrael v. 2 Hilchot Shechita, Or letzion 2:27:8, Tzitz Eliezer 14:45, Lehorot Natan 7:21, 8:19, Dvar Yehoshua 2:45, Divrei Yatziv OC 171, Mishna Halachot 7:47, and Yabia Omer 9:108:158.</ref> | * Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2100 quotes many who are lenient even with opening metal caps including: Even Yisrael v. 2 Hilchot Shechita, Or letzion 2:27:8, Tzitz Eliezer 14:45, Lehorot Natan 7:21, 8:19, Dvar Yehoshua 2:45, Divrei Yatziv OC 171, Mishna Halachot 7:47, and Yabia Omer 9:108:158.</ref> | ||
# The Shabbos Bottle Opener made by Kosher Innovations stretches the cap and doesn't break off the ring of the cap. Many poskim allow using it on Shabbat.<reF>Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2104 quotes many poskim who permit stretching a bottle cap so that it comes off without becausing the ring attached to it. These poskim include: Rav Elyashiv (Meor Hashabbat 2:551, Ashrei Haish 2:31:3), Chut Shani (Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:2:42), and Pitchei Teshuvot 314:6:73. [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/919970/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/from-the-rabbi-s-desk-kosher-bottle-opener-dressing-like-a-priest/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz (From the Rabbi's Desk)] explains the entire issue about using this Kosher Bottle Opener. Many poskim hold that opening bottle caps normally is permitted and would also accept this but think it is unnecessary except that it is a stringency. He quoted Rav Belsky thinking that it is necessary and solves the issue. Rav Hershel Schachter thinks it is forbidden to open bottles and even with this product it is still forbidden. It is similar to breaking a tight seal that Rav Moshe forbids opening a milk carton. Then he asked Rav Schachter again and he wasn't sure that it is a problem.</ref> | |||
===Asking Someone Else to Do It for You=== | |||
# Someone who holds that it’s forbidden to open a bottle on [[Shabbat]] is forbidden to ask another Jew who holds that it’s permissible to open a bottle on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 93) writes that it’s forbidden to ask a fellow Jew to open a can or bottle for him on [[Shabbat]] if the one requesting holds that one is forbidden to do so. He supports this with Sh”t Igrot Moshe 4:119:5. | # Someone who holds that it’s forbidden to open a bottle on [[Shabbat]] is forbidden to ask another Jew who holds that it’s permissible to open a bottle on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 93) writes that it’s forbidden to ask a fellow Jew to open a can or bottle for him on [[Shabbat]] if the one requesting holds that one is forbidden to do so. He supports this with Sh”t Igrot Moshe 4:119:5. | ||
* Many poskim also forbid including Tal Imrati (18:11, pg 190) quoting Chacham Ben Tzion Abba Shaul, Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 3, pg 217-9) quoting Rav Ovadyah Yosef, Banim Chavivim (Siman 18, pg 91) quoting Rabbi Eliezer Waldenburg (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 1, Peninei HaMeor pg 552)) and Rav Chaim Kanievsky (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 2, pg 77)). Rav Yisrael Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi (vol 1, Birur Halacha 10, pg 339) also rules stringently and gives four reasons. | * Many poskim also forbid including Tal Imrati (18:11, pg 190) quoting Chacham Ben Tzion Abba Shaul, Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 3, pg 217-9) quoting Rav Ovadyah Yosef, Banim Chavivim (Siman 18, pg 91) quoting Rabbi Eliezer Waldenburg (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 1, Peninei HaMeor pg 552)) and Rav Chaim Kanievsky (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 2, pg 77)). Rav Yisrael Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi (vol 1, Birur Halacha 10, pg 339) also rules stringently and gives four reasons. | ||
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* (4) Degrading one’s friend. By asking one’s friend to do something which one holds is forbidden is treating him like a [[Shabbos goy]] or a less important Jew. | * (4) Degrading one’s friend. By asking one’s friend to do something which one holds is forbidden is treating him like a [[Shabbos goy]] or a less important Jew. | ||
* Rav Belsky concludes that it’s forbidden to ask him to open the bottle and it would be just as forbidden to ask him to open it for himself to drink because all the reasons apply except (perhaps) the first one. Though, he agrees that if the one who holds it is permissible opened it for himself it is permissible for others to benefit from the contents of the bottle. </ref> However, some say that if one is only strict based on the minhag of his Rabbis or father one may ask someone who holds it’s permissible.<Ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (Peninei HaMoer 3:8)) rules that if the one requesting holds it’s forbidden based on his ruling, then, it’s forbidden to ask someone who holds it’s permitted to do it for him, however, if the one requesting is only strict because of the minhag of his Rabbis or father, then it’s permitted to ask someone else to do that act. </ref> | * Rav Belsky concludes that it’s forbidden to ask him to open the bottle and it would be just as forbidden to ask him to open it for himself to drink because all the reasons apply except (perhaps) the first one. Though, he agrees that if the one who holds it is permissible opened it for himself it is permissible for others to benefit from the contents of the bottle. </ref> However, some say that if one is only strict based on the minhag of his Rabbis or father one may ask someone who holds it’s permissible.<Ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (Peninei HaMoer 3:8)) rules that if the one requesting holds it’s forbidden based on his ruling, then, it’s forbidden to ask someone who holds it’s permitted to do it for him, however, if the one requesting is only strict because of the minhag of his Rabbis or father, then it’s permitted to ask someone else to do that act. </ref> | ||
==Plastic protective seal== | ==Plastic protective seal== | ||
