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==Introduction to Taste of Forbidden Foods== | ==Introduction to Taste of Forbidden Foods== | ||
# There’s a dispute between Rashi<ref>Rashi chullin 98b</ref> and Tosfot<ref>Tosfot Chullin 98b s.v. Rava based on the Gemara Pesachim 44b which derives from the pasuk that bread with the taste of wine is biblically forbidden to a nazir.</ref> whether we consider the taste of a forbidden food like the actual forbidden food itself on a biblical level or only on a rabbinic level. Rashi holds it is only rabbinic and Tosfot holds it is biblical. One ramification of this is if there’s a mixture of a forbidden food in a liquid mixture of another taste which was permitted, if it is unclear whether there is sixty times the volume<ref>Badei Hashulchan 98:12 rules that nullification depends on the volume and not weight.</ref> of the forbidden food according to Rashi it is permitted and according to Tosfot it is forbidden. We hold like Tosfot. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 98:1-2, Badei Hashulchan 98:1</ref> | # There’s a dispute between Rashi<ref>Rashi chullin 98b</ref> and Tosfot<ref>Tosfot Chullin 98b s.v. Rava based on the Gemara Pesachim 44b which derives from the pasuk that bread with the taste of wine is biblically forbidden to a nazir.</ref> whether we consider the taste of a forbidden food like the actual forbidden food itself on a biblical level or only on a rabbinic level. Rashi holds it is only rabbinic and Tosfot holds it is biblical. One ramification of this is if there’s a mixture of a forbidden food in a liquid mixture of another taste which was permitted, if it is unclear whether there is sixty times the volume<ref>Badei Hashulchan 98:12 rules that nullification depends on the volume and not weight.</ref> of the forbidden food according to Rashi it is permitted and according to Tosfot it is forbidden. We hold like Tosfot. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 98:1-2, Badei Hashulchan 98:1</ref> | ||
# A food that fell into a mixture and was nullified and then falls into another mixture that second mixture is also forbidden unless there’s nullification. <ref>Gemara Chullin 108b, Rama 98:4</ref> However, if that item fell back into that same mixture it is still nullified with the original sixty times the forbidden item.<ref>Rama 98:4. See Badei Hashulchan 98:61 who explains why we don’t assume that the forbidden taste reawakens when the forbidden item falls in again.</ref> | |||
# Forbidden foods require sixty times for nullification even if it less than the requisite amount of a [[kezayit]].<ref>Shulchan Aruch 98:6</ref> | |||
# Spices which are intrinsically forbidden aren’t nullified in sixty as long as their taste is recognizable. <ref>Rama 98:8. See Badei Hashulchan 98:84 whether this is biblically forbidden or rabbinically. The Taz holds that this only applies to spices or sharp foods but not everything that has a strong taste. See Badei Hashulchan 98:87 for a variant opinion.</ref> | |||
===Recognizable=== | |||
# If the forbidden item in a mixture is recognizable it must be removed. <ref>Rama 98:4 writes that if the forbidden item is recognizable it must be removed. He adds that even if the forbidden ingredient has the potential to become recognizable it needs to be removed. For example, if forbidden fat fell into a mixture, one should pour in water to cause the fat to rise and then remove it. Shach 98:16 and Kaf HaChaim 98:57 note that even if the forbidden fat is removed by having it rise to the top still the food is forbidden unless the permitted ingredients are sixty times the forbidden fats. Kaf HaChaim 98:59 quotes a dispute between the Kereti and Pri Megadim whether one needs to do this procedure if it’ll ruin the food and concludes that for a major loss one can be lenient.</ref> | |||
# If the forbidden food is recognizable even if its taste is nullified it must be removed. If the forbidden food isn’t currently recognizable but it is possible to remove the forbidden food nonetheless, one should do so. For example, if forbidden fat was cooked into a mixture but it can be removed by pouring water into it and letting the fat rise one should do so.<ref>Rama 98:4</ref> There is a dispute if one needs to do so if in the process the whole mixture will be ruined. Some poskim advise being strict.<ref>Badei Hashulchan 98:55</ref> | |||
===Liquid Mixtures=== | ===Liquid Mixtures=== | ||
# A forbidden food that fell into a mixture of permitted food that shares its taste is nullified biblically as long as there’s a majority and according to the rabbis requires nullification of one to sixty to be permitted. However, if that forbidden food fell into a mixture of permitted food with a different taste than it, it would require nullification of one to sixty on a biblical level. <ref> | # A forbidden food that fell into a mixture of permitted food that shares its taste is nullified biblically as long as there’s a majority and according to the rabbis requires nullification of one to sixty to be permitted. However, if that forbidden food fell into a mixture of permitted food with a different taste than it, it would require nullification of one to sixty on a biblical level. <ref> | ||
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* Rabbenu Peretz (cited by Tur YD 98:4) held that if a metal utensil is partially inside the hot food the entire utensil becomes hot and imparts taste to the food, however, the Tur disagrees. Rama YD 98:4 rules like the Tur. Kaf HaChaim 98:56 writes that one should be strict for Rabbenu Peretz unless there is a large loss. | * Rabbenu Peretz (cited by Tur YD 98:4) held that if a metal utensil is partially inside the hot food the entire utensil becomes hot and imparts taste to the food, however, the Tur disagrees. Rama YD 98:4 rules like the Tur. Kaf HaChaim 98:56 writes that one should be strict for Rabbenu Peretz unless there is a large loss. | ||
* Kaf HaChaim 98:48 explains that when discussing food cooked in a forbidden pot we always consider as though the entire pot imparted forbidden taste even if the food only cooked in half of the pot since there is hot moisture which spreads the forbidden taste throughout the pot. </ref> | * Kaf HaChaim 98:48 explains that when discussing food cooked in a forbidden pot we always consider as though the entire pot imparted forbidden taste even if the food only cooked in half of the pot since there is hot moisture which spreads the forbidden taste throughout the pot. </ref> | ||
# If a meat spoon was last used for meat more than 24 hours earlier, then is used for milk that day, and is again used for meat that day, the spoon is considered to have only absorbed up to the volume of the milk that it was used for that day. Some are strict to assume that the spoon absorbed up to the full volume of the spoon if it is made of earthenware. <ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 98:5 and Rama, see next note.</ref> | # If a meat spoon was last used for meat more than 24 hours earlier, then is used for milk that day, and is again used for meat that day, the spoon is considered to have only absorbed up to the volume of the milk that it was used for that day. Some are strict to assume that the spoon absorbed up to the full volume of the spoon if it is made of earthenware. <ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 98:5 and Rama, see next note.</ref> | ||
# If a meat spoon was last used for meat with 24 hours, then is used for milk that day, and is again used for meat that day, the spoon is considered to have only absorbed up to the full volume of the spoon. Some are lenient in a case of great loss and the spoon isn’t made of earthenware.<ref>The Rashba (Torat HaBayit 1b) writes that if a new spoon was used for a prohibited food or a meat spoon was last used for meat more than 24 hours earlier and is then used for milk that day, then it is considered to only have absorbed the taste of the amount of milk it was used for. However, if it was used for meat within 24 hours, then is used for milk and again for meat, then we consider the spoon to having absorbed the forbidden taste up to the full volume of the spoon. He cites the Ramban as holding that a utensil never becomes completely forbidden and only ever receives the amount of forbidden taste it absorbed even if that was within 24 hours. The Bet Yosef 98:5 understands that the Tur follows the Rashba, while the Ran follows the Ramban. Shulchan Aruch YD 98:5 and Rama rule like Rashba. Kaf HaChaim 98:65 agrees. Shach 98:21 rules that in cases of great loss one can rely on the opinion of the Ramban. | # If a meat spoon was last used for meat with 24 hours, then is used for milk that day, and is again used for meat that day, the spoon is considered to have only absorbed up to the full volume of the spoon. Some are lenient in a case of great loss and the spoon isn’t made of earthenware.<ref>The Rashba (Torat HaBayit 1b) writes that if a new spoon was used for a prohibited food or a meat spoon was last used for meat more than 24 hours earlier and is then used for milk that day, then it is considered to only have absorbed the taste of the amount of milk it was used for. However, if it was used for meat within 24 hours, then is used for milk and again for meat, then we consider the spoon to having absorbed the forbidden taste up to the full volume of the spoon. He cites the Ramban as holding that a utensil never becomes completely forbidden and only ever receives the amount of forbidden taste it absorbed even if that was within 24 hours. The Bet Yosef 98:5 understands that the Tur follows the Rashba, while the Ran follows the Ramban. Shulchan Aruch YD 98:5 and Rama rule like Rashba. Kaf HaChaim 98:65 agrees. Shach 98:21 rules that in cases of great loss one can rely on the opinion of the Ramban. | ||
