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# Some say that we only consider pets<ref>Shalmei Yehuda p. 111 cites Rav Elyashiv holding this opinion since it is forbidden to fed animals which aren’t pets besides for dogs. Tehilah Ldovid and Chut Shani cited by Dirshu.</ref> and others argue that we consider any animal that is common in that town even non-pets.<ref>Shalmei Yehuda p. 333 n. 33 cites a letter from Rav Pinchas Sheinberg that it doesn’t depend on only pets. His proof is that the poskim didn’t specify only pets but rather wrote any common animal. Also, it is sometimes permitted to feed non-pets if they rely on you for sustenance like ownerless dogs (Magen Avraham 324:7). Rav Yakov Yisrael Fisher (Meor Hashabbat v. 1 p. 547, cited by Chazon Ovadia) writes that animal food isn’t muktzeh if animals of that area would eat it even if it is forbidden to feed the animals which aren’t pets. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 24 agrees.</ref> | # Some say that we only consider pets<ref>Shalmei Yehuda p. 111 cites Rav Elyashiv holding this opinion since it is forbidden to fed animals which aren’t pets besides for dogs. Tehilah Ldovid and Chut Shani cited by Dirshu.</ref> and others argue that we consider any animal that is common in that town even non-pets.<ref>Shalmei Yehuda p. 333 n. 33 cites a letter from Rav Pinchas Sheinberg that it doesn’t depend on only pets. His proof is that the poskim didn’t specify only pets but rather wrote any common animal. Also, it is sometimes permitted to feed non-pets if they rely on you for sustenance like ownerless dogs (Magen Avraham 324:7). Rav Yakov Yisrael Fisher (Meor Hashabbat v. 1 p. 547, cited by Chazon Ovadia) writes that animal food isn’t muktzeh if animals of that area would eat it even if it is forbidden to feed the animals which aren’t pets. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 24 agrees.</ref> | ||
===Leftover Foods=== | ===Leftover Foods=== | ||
# If a person is eating fruit or nuts and has spits or shells in his mouth that aren’t edible to humans or people some poskim hold that one should spit it out on the plate, while others hold that one can use one’s hands to take the pits and place them on the plate.<ref>Gemara Shabbat 143a cites several alternatives of how to get rid of seeds and pits while one is eating fruits. Rav Sheshet used to spit them out to a place of garbage and it isn’t clear if the others did the same or not. See Meyuchas Lran 143a s.v. hani who implies that it is permitted to place it down after eating. Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:26 rules that it is permitted to take the muktzeh pits or shells from one’s mouth and place them on the plate. Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 82 explains that the reason is that the pits or seeds aren’t muktzeh since they are nullified by the food. Furthermore, to place it on the plate and not to drop it immediately it is relevant to the discussion of the Magen Avraham 266:12 and Even Haozer 266. However, Orchot Shabbat cites many including Tehilah Ldovid, Aruch Moshe, Igrot Moshe, and Chazon Ish held that you can’t take the muktzeh in your hands, rather you have to spit it out. This is also implied by Magen Avraham 308:50 and Mishna Brurah 308:124. Rav Shlomo Zalman is quoted in contradictory ways.</ref> | # If a person is eating fruit or nuts and has spits or shells in his mouth that aren’t edible to humans or people some poskim hold that one should spit it out on the plate, while others hold that one can use one’s hands to take the pits and place them on the plate.<ref>Gemara Shabbat 143a cites several alternatives of how to get rid of seeds and pits while one is eating fruits. Rav Sheshet used to spit them out to a place of garbage and it isn’t clear if the others did the same or not. See Meyuchas Lran 143a s.v. hani who implies that it is permitted to place it down after eating. Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:26 rules that it is permitted to take the muktzeh pits or shells from one’s mouth and place them on the plate. Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 82 explains that the reason is that the pits or seeds aren’t muktzeh since they are nullified by the food. Furthermore, to place it on the plate and not to drop it immediately it is relevant to the discussion of the Magen Avraham 266:12 and Even Haozer 266. However, Shulchan Aruch Harav 308:67 explicitly writes that one may not take it in one's hands. Orchot Shabbat cites many including Tehilah Ldovid, Aruch Moshe, Igrot Moshe, and Chazon Ish who held that you can’t take the muktzeh in your hands, rather you have to spit it out. This is also implied by Magen Avraham 308:50 and Mishna Brurah 308:124. Rav Shlomo Zalman is quoted in contradictory ways.</ref> | ||
# Leftover food that is edible to animals in your place isn't muktzeh.<ref>Beitzah 2a, Shabbat 143a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 308:26</ref> What animals are considered for this see [[#Animal Food]]. | |||
# Leftover food that isn't edible that is upon one's plate one could shake it off the plate since it didn't become a [[bosis]].<ref>Beitzah 2a, Shabbat 143a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 308:26. The reason that it didn't become a bosis is because one planned to remove them before the end of Shabbat (Tosfot Beitzah 2a), there is also permitted food on the table (Tosfot), it was left in a haphazard manner and not placed (Tosfot), it wasn't there from the beginning of Shabbat (Baal Hameor), or it isn't significant compared to what is holding it (Rashba Beitzah 2a s.v. mistabra). This is all quoted by the Magen Avraham 308:50.</ref> | |||
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