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* animals <ref> S”A 308:39 </ref> | * animals <ref> S”A 308:39 </ref> | ||
* bars of soap <ref> [http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5763/shemos.html Rabbi Doniel Neustadt], Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:22(15), and Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 158) all consider a bar of soap to be [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. Shemirat Shabbat Kihilchita 20:16 | * bars of soap <ref> | ||
* [http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5763/shemos.html Rabbi Doniel Neustadt], Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:22(15), and Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 158) all consider a bar of soap to be [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] being that it is an item without any permitted use on Shabbat. | |||
* Shemirat Shabbat Kihilchita 20:16 holds that it is only a [[kli shemelachto li'isur]]. Nevertheless, he recommends to be strict and consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. In the footnote (n. 44) he cites Rav Shlomo Zalman who seems to lean in favor of considering bar soap to be [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. His logic is as follows: There's a dispute Magen Avraham and Eliyah Rabba about an unlit wax candle. Magen Avraham says it is a Kli Shemelachto Leissur since it is useable item six days a week and its use on Shabbat is forbidden. However, the Eliyah Rabba says that it isn't a kli at all since its entire use on Shabbat is asur and isn't considered a functional kli. Mishna Brurah is lenient. Shemirat Shabbat says he thinks it is comparable to that case - if so, the din would be that soap is kli shemelachto leissur. However, Rav Shlomo Zalman said its not the same bc candles you can benefit from, so perhaps it is somewhat like a functional kli on shabbat, whereas bar soap is totally useless on shabbat. He then seems to compare it to shofar which he also considers to be completely muktzeh nowadays that people don't think from it and is completely useless on shabbat as it is forbidden to blow into it (see Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (28 n. 82)). </ref> | |||
* battery <ref> Shalmei Yehuda (pg 61) quoting Rav Elyashiv says that batteries are considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] and in extenuating circumstances can be considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] </ref> | * battery <ref> Shalmei Yehuda (pg 61) quoting Rav Elyashiv says that batteries are considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] and in extenuating circumstances can be considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] </ref> | ||
* bicycles <ref> Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 24) in name of Rav Moshe Feinstein </ref> | * bicycles <ref> Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 24) in name of Rav Moshe Feinstein </ref> | ||
