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# Some poskim consider [[Pesach]] dishes that one wouldn’t use during the year as Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis, while others hold that they are not [[Muktzeh]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata 20:22 writes that [[Pesach]] dishes that a person is careful not to use during the year even if a need came up are considered Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis. Rav Hershel Schachter (“Hilchos Muktze,” min 27-30) argues that they aren’t [[Muktzeh]] since they are perfectly useable utensils, whose primary purpose is permitted. He reasoned that even though the owner didn’t plan on using them on [[Shabbat]], according to Rabbi Shimon, they aren’t [[Muktzeh]]. Chut Shani (vol 3, p. 88) agrees. </ref> | # Some poskim consider [[Pesach]] dishes that one wouldn’t use during the year as Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis, while others hold that they are not [[Muktzeh]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata 20:22 writes that [[Pesach]] dishes that a person is careful not to use during the year even if a need came up are considered Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis. Rav Hershel Schachter (“Hilchos Muktze,” min 27-30) argues that they aren’t [[Muktzeh]] since they are perfectly useable utensils, whose primary purpose is permitted. He reasoned that even though the owner didn’t plan on using them on [[Shabbat]], according to Rabbi Shimon, they aren’t [[Muktzeh]]. Chut Shani (vol 3, p. 88) agrees. </ref> | ||
# A credit card<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Khilchata 20:20 writes that credit cards are muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. Orchot Shabbat 19:95 and [https://ph.yhb.org.il/en/01-23-04/ Peninei Halacha Shabbat 23:4 (v. 2 p. 158)] agree. [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-behar/ Rabbi Neustadt] wrote that it is completely muktzeh machmat gufo like money since it has no use.[https://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/190/Q6/ A rabbi from Ohr Same'ach] agreed.</ref>, business documents, checks, securities, tax exempt documents, bills of money, bus or subway cards are all Muktzeh Machmat Chison Kis.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:20. Chut Shani v. 3 p. 111 writes that bus cards are completely muktzeh. He isn't sure whether a magnetic identity card used in a hospital or the like is considered a kli shemelachto lisur or muktzeh machmat gufo. He discusses whether it is a kli since it has a use albeit forbidden or perhaps since it isn't used in it of itself it is like money which is muktzeh machmat gufo. He concludes that we should be strict.</ref> | # A credit card<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Khilchata 20:20 writes that credit cards are muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. Orchot Shabbat 19:95 and [https://ph.yhb.org.il/en/01-23-04/ Peninei Halacha Shabbat 23:4 (v. 2 p. 158)] agree. [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-behar/ Rabbi Neustadt] wrote that it is completely muktzeh machmat gufo like money since it has no use.[https://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/190/Q6/ A rabbi from Ohr Same'ach] agreed.</ref>, business documents, checks, securities, tax exempt documents, bills of money, bus or subway cards are all Muktzeh Machmat Chison Kis.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:20. Chut Shani v. 3 p. 111 writes that bus cards are completely muktzeh. He isn't sure whether a magnetic identity card used in a hospital or the like is considered a kli shemelachto lisur or muktzeh machmat gufo. He discusses whether it is a kli since it has a use albeit forbidden or perhaps since it isn't used in it of itself it is like money which is muktzeh machmat gufo. He concludes that we should be strict.</ref> | ||
# Matzah Mitzvah on Erev Pesach when Pesach falls out on Shabbat is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis.<ref>Pri Megadim E"A 308:10, 444:1, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:23. [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/867644/rabbi-hershel-schachter/kollel-chaburah-on-beitzah-muktzeh-machmat-chisaron-kis-(11a)/ Rav Schachter (towards the end)] questioned this for the night of Shabbat since some permit eating it then.</ref> | # Matzah Mitzvah on Erev Pesach when Pesach falls out on Shabbat is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis.<ref>Pri Megadim E"A 308:10, 444:1, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:23, Yalkut Yosef (Erev Pesach Shechal Bshabbat n. 13). [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/867644/rabbi-hershel-schachter/kollel-chaburah-on-beitzah-muktzeh-machmat-chisaron-kis-(11a)/ Rav Schachter (towards the end)] questioned this for the night of Shabbat since some permit eating it then.</ref> | ||
# A shechita knife is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis.<ref>Gemara 123b establishes that a sakina deshkavta is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. Tosfot, Rabbenu Chananel, Rashba, and Shulchan Aruch 308:1 understand it to be a shechita knife. | |||
#Rashi 123b translates sakina deshkavta as a butcher’s knife to cut knife. Why is the sakina deshkavta considered a kli shemelachto lisur (if that is necessary for muktzeh machmat chisaron kis)? | |||
##According to Tosfot Shabbat 123b s.v. vsakina and Rabbenu Chananel it isn’t a question since they translate it as a shechita knife and shechita is a melacha. Avodat Hakodesh Bet Moad 5:2:26 agrees. | |||
##Chiko Mamtakim Yom Tov v. 3 p. 712 writes that the reason that a butcher knife is kli shemelachto lisur is because its use is uvda dchol. | |||
##Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata ch. 20 fnt. 52) explained that since the knife prepares meat that is going to be sold it is a kli shemelachto lisur. </ref> | |||
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