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# Since our Matzahs are thin and hard to eat 2 Kezayitim in [[Kedi Achilat Pras]] one should eat then one after another. <Ref>Halichot Shlomo 9:41 </ref> | # Since our Matzahs are thin and hard to eat 2 Kezayitim in [[Kedi Achilat Pras]] one should eat then one after another. <Ref>Halichot Shlomo 9:41 </ref> | ||
==Ownership over the Matzah== | ==Ownership over the Matzah== | ||
# The minhag is that one doesn’t need to acquire the Matzahs from the homeowner, however, the pious maintain this practice. <Ref>Halichot Shlomo 9:4 </ref> | # The minhag is that one doesn’t need to acquire the Matzahs from the homeowner, however, the pious maintain this practice.<Ref>Sfat Emet Sukkah 35a s.v. itta, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Halichot Shlomo 9:4, Haarot of Rav Elyashiv Pesachim 29a. | ||
* Rosh Pesachim 2:18 understands that it is necessary to own one's matzah in order to fulfill one's obligation and if it is stolen one does not fulfill one's obligation. Shulchan Aruch O.C. 454:4 codifies the Rosh. | |||
* Sfat Emet extends this to having to own the matzah and not merely rely on the fact that the homeowner allowed him to eat it. For example, see Shulchan Aruch E.H. 28:17 and Taz 28:34 where it is clear that it is possible to have something that one can eat but yet not be the owner of. Sfat Emet defends the practice not to be strict to acquire the matzah's because we can assume that the intention of the homeowner is to grant them ownership over the matzah's. | |||
* Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Halichot Shlomo thinks although regarding stealing the Mekor Chaim 454:1 notes that chewing on the matzah itself is a form of acquisition (Ketubot 30b) and therefore one would fulfill one's obligation, for a regular guest this isn't the case because he doesn't intend to acquire them. He defends the minhag based on the Mahari Kurkus and Kesef Mishna who understand the Rosh as disagreeing with the Rosh. | |||
* Rav Elyashiv notes that it seems Tosfot Pesachim 29a would deem eating to be a form of acquisition whether one intends to acquire the matzah or not. He concludes that it isn't a clear proof since perhaps it is only an acquisition with respect to chametz and not in general. (In that vein see Baal Hameor, Raavad, and Rabbenu Dovid who all seem to be a clearer proof than Tosfot.)</ref> | |||
==Soft Matzahs== | ==Soft Matzahs== | ||
# Some say that even for Ashkenazim it's permissible to have soft Matzahs and for those that it's difficult to eat hard [[matzah]] it's preferable to eat Soft [[Matzah]]. <ref> Rav Hershel Schachter [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/759938/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Laws_and_Customs_of_Pesach YUTorah.org] between minutes 58 and 66. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Halichot Shlomo 9:80 says although in the past ashkenazim may have eaten it there is no tradition anymore to permit it. Rav Asher Weiss at the end of the Minchat Asher Haggada siman 15 writes that really it is permissible but there may be some concern that since we aren't experts in making them soft it may become chametz. </ref> | # Some say that even for Ashkenazim it's permissible to have soft Matzahs and for those that it's difficult to eat hard [[matzah]] it's preferable to eat Soft [[Matzah]]. <ref> Rav Hershel Schachter [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/759938/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Laws_and_Customs_of_Pesach YUTorah.org] between minutes 58 and 66. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Halichot Shlomo 9:80 says although in the past ashkenazim may have eaten it there is no tradition anymore to permit it. Rav Asher Weiss at the end of the Minchat Asher Haggada siman 15 writes that really it is permissible but there may be some concern that since we aren't experts in making them soft it may become chametz. </ref> | ||
