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# The Sephardic minhag is to dip the [[matzah]] in salt and the Ashkenazic minhag is not to dip the [[matzah]] in salt. <Ref>S”A and Rama 475:1, Mishna Brurah 475:4 explains that Ashkenazim don’t dip the [[matzah]] in salt so that the [[matzah]] can be seen as poor man’s bread.</ref> | # The Sephardic minhag is to dip the [[matzah]] in salt and the Ashkenazic minhag is not to dip the [[matzah]] in salt. <Ref>S”A and Rama 475:1, Mishna Brurah 475:4 explains that Ashkenazim don’t dip the [[matzah]] in salt so that the [[matzah]] can be seen as poor man’s bread.</ref> | ||
==Measuring a Kezayit== | ==Measuring a Kezayit== | ||
# Most permit measuring the required amounts for the Mitzvah of eating [[Matzah]]. <Ref>Shemirat | # Most permit measuring the required amounts for the Mitzvah of eating [[Matzah]]. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 29:40 (also in Halichot Shlomo 9:7), Petach Dvir 306:7 </ref>Some are strict to require one to measure before [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Natai Gavriel (vol 2, 90:30) quoting S”A HaRav </ref> | ||
==How much Matzah should one have?== | ==How much Matzah should one have?== | ||
# See the [[Required Amount of Matzah and Wine for the Seder]] page. | # See the [[Required Amount of Matzah and Wine for the Seder]] page. | ||
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# Many poskim permit eating machine [[matzah]] to fulfill the mitzvah of eating [[Matzah]] at the seders, if the [[matzah]] was made with intent to be used for the mitzvah of [[Matzah]]. <ref> Rav Schachter on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5770 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5770] between minutes 75:15 and 81:00. In a shiur on [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/774103/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Innovation_and_Halakha:_Machine_vs._Hand_Shmurah_Matzah yutorah.org], Rav Schachter discussed the issues of Machine [[Matzah]] at length. The major issue was whether the pressing of the button to start the machine is considered enough of an action of a person to consider the [[matzah]] to be baked lishma. He concluded that it many poskim consider it to be acceptable Shemurah [[Matzah]]. He also quotes Rav Soloveitchik saying that he found machine matzot to be preferable for the mitzvah of eating [[matzah]] at the [[seder]]. Bikvei Hatzoan he shows this point from the Gra YD 3. (See Maharsham 2:16 who quotes those who are lenient.) Haggadah of the Roshei Yeshivah (pg 2) records the practice of Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer to eat machine [[matzah]] for the [[seder]]. See Hakira v. 25 p. 31 fnt. 57 quotes that Rav Moshe Soloveitchik held that machine matzah was as good if not better than hand made matzah and he would give it to his children for the seder, though he himself had hand made matzah for the seder. He explained that there's no minhag to eat hand made matzah since you can't have a minhag that isn't based on any halachic factor.</ref> | # Many poskim permit eating machine [[matzah]] to fulfill the mitzvah of eating [[Matzah]] at the seders, if the [[matzah]] was made with intent to be used for the mitzvah of [[Matzah]]. <ref> Rav Schachter on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5770 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5770] between minutes 75:15 and 81:00. In a shiur on [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/774103/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Innovation_and_Halakha:_Machine_vs._Hand_Shmurah_Matzah yutorah.org], Rav Schachter discussed the issues of Machine [[Matzah]] at length. The major issue was whether the pressing of the button to start the machine is considered enough of an action of a person to consider the [[matzah]] to be baked lishma. He concluded that it many poskim consider it to be acceptable Shemurah [[Matzah]]. He also quotes Rav Soloveitchik saying that he found machine matzot to be preferable for the mitzvah of eating [[matzah]] at the [[seder]]. Bikvei Hatzoan he shows this point from the Gra YD 3. (See Maharsham 2:16 who quotes those who are lenient.) Haggadah of the Roshei Yeshivah (pg 2) records the practice of Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer to eat machine [[matzah]] for the [[seder]]. See Hakira v. 25 p. 31 fnt. 57 quotes that Rav Moshe Soloveitchik held that machine matzah was as good if not better than hand made matzah and he would give it to his children for the seder, though he himself had hand made matzah for the seder. He explained that there's no minhag to eat hand made matzah since you can't have a minhag that isn't based on any halachic factor.</ref> | ||
# There’s no difference in preference in having whole wheat or white flour [[matzah]]. <Ref> Rav Schachter on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 101 and 101:30 </ref> | # There’s no difference in preference in having whole wheat or white flour [[matzah]]. <Ref> Rav Schachter on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 101 and 101:30 </ref> | ||
# Sephardim hold that one should have hand baked matzah for the seder.<Ref>Yacheve Daat 1:14 writes that since it is a major dispute if the Jew who presses the button to bake the matzot is considered lishma one should avoid the question for the mitzvah deoritta of matzah. Yalkut Yosef 475:32 concurs. See Yabia Omer YD 4:20:9 who references this idea as well.</ref> | # Sephardim hold that one should have hand baked matzah for the seder.<Ref>Yacheve Daat 1:14 writes that since it is a major dispute if the Jew who presses the button to bake the matzot is considered lishma one should avoid the question for the mitzvah deoritta of matzah. Yalkut Yosef 475:32 concurs. See Yabia Omer YD 4:20:9 who references this idea as well. With respect to the concern that a crumb of chametz was mixed into the machine matzah's, Yachava Daat 1:14 writes that they would be nullified and remain nullified on Pesach. Yalkut Yosef (Pesach 5771 447:11) agrees.</ref> | ||
# One should certainly buy matzot baked before Pesach and not on Pesach itself.<ref>Tur end of OC 458 writes that one should bake one's matzot before pesach in case there's any crumbs of chametz mixed in they would be nullified and permitted on Pesach. He is in line with his own opinion in Tur OC 447 that once chametz is nullified in food before pesach it remains nullified. Yabia Omer O.C. 2:23 applies this to machine matzot that might have a crumb of chametz mixed in but was nullified before pesach. He shows that the minhag is like the opinion of Shulchan Aruch that there's no chozer vneer by chametz before pesach.</ref> | # One should certainly buy matzot baked before Pesach and not on Pesach itself.<ref>Tur end of OC 458 writes that one should bake one's matzot before pesach in case there's any crumbs of chametz mixed in they would be nullified and permitted on Pesach. He is in line with his own opinion in Tur OC 447 that once chametz is nullified in food before pesach it remains nullified. Yabia Omer O.C. 2:23 applies this to machine matzot that might have a crumb of chametz mixed in but was nullified before pesach. He shows that the minhag is like the opinion of Shulchan Aruch that there's no chozer vneer by chametz before pesach.</ref> | ||
==Baking Matzah== | |||
# There was an old minhag to make sure to bake the matzah after [[chatzot]], midday, on Erev Pesach.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 458:1. Chok Natan 458:1 writes that the time for Pesach is according to the Bach only 6.5 hours into the day and according to the Magen Avraham after 6 hours into the day. The Magen Avraham cites Tosfot Pesachim 5a, Yoma 28a, and Niddah 63b as proofs. Chok Natan rejects these proofs and supports the Bach from the Roke'ach 280, Mordechai Pesachim n. 533, and Shibolei Haleket 213.</ref> | |||
==Egg Matzah== | ==Egg Matzah== | ||
# One does not fulfill one's mitzvah of the night of the seder with egg matzah.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 462:1. See Rambam Chametz Umatza 6:6</ref> | |||
# According to Ashkenazim one should not eat egg [[matzah]] on [[Pesach]] unless one is ill or weak. However, according to Sephardim it's permissible to eat but one can not eat it for the mitzvah of [[Matzah]] at [[the Seder]], however it's praiseworthy to avoid it. <ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipID=2121 Daily Halacha by Rabbi Mansour]. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 117:6 writes that the elderly and sick may eat [[Matzah]] Ashirah which is made from fruit juice, eggs, milk, or wine as long as no water was added. However, if there's not such a great need one shouldn't bake [[Matzah]] Ashirah. </ref> | # According to Ashkenazim one should not eat egg [[matzah]] on [[Pesach]] unless one is ill or weak. However, according to Sephardim it's permissible to eat but one can not eat it for the mitzvah of [[Matzah]] at [[the Seder]], however it's praiseworthy to avoid it. <ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipID=2121 Daily Halacha by Rabbi Mansour]. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 117:6 writes that the elderly and sick may eat [[Matzah]] Ashirah which is made from fruit juice, eggs, milk, or wine as long as no water was added. However, if there's not such a great need one shouldn't bake [[Matzah]] Ashirah. </ref> | ||
