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# The aforementioned Rashba quotes the sefer hateruma 234-235 understands that the problem is based on the [[muktzeh]] category of nolad. Since the result will be [[muktzeh]] since it is a newly created item, it would be prohibited. </ref> | # The aforementioned Rashba quotes the sefer hateruma 234-235 understands that the problem is based on the [[muktzeh]] category of nolad. Since the result will be [[muktzeh]] since it is a newly created item, it would be prohibited. </ref> | ||
==Crushing and | ==Crushing and Melting Ice== | ||
# One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice into a cup of water and have | # One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice cubes into a cup of water and have them melt on their own.<ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, Shulchan Aruch 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74, Yalkut Yosef 320:31</ref> | ||
# One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice. <ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Brurah 320:39, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 3 Sechita Bshaar Dvarim 320:25) </ref> | # It is best not to place the ice cubes in the empty cup and then pour water on top of the ice to chill or cool the water since doing so is inevitably going to melt the ice.<ref>Piskei Teshuvot 320:14 writes that it is best not to place ice in a cup and then pour water on top of it to cool the water since pouring the water melts the ice. In fnt. 154 he cites the Migdanot Eliyahu 2:105 who isn't certain if it is permitted. Shabbat Khalacha 17:3 is also strict. See Minchat Shay 320:9. Rav Mordechai Eliyahu in Sh"t Maamar Mordechai 4:83 is lenient.</ref> | ||
# One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice.<ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Brurah 320:39, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 3 Sechita Bshaar Dvarim 320:25) </ref> | |||
# One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref> | # One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref> | ||
# One can put out salt on ice or snow so that people can walk since one's intent isn't for the ice and one isn't actively melting the ice.<ref> Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 3 Sechita Bshaar Dvarim 320:24). He references Lev Avraham 1:49 as also being lenient. </ref> | # One can put out salt on ice or snow so that people can walk since one's intent isn't for the ice and one isn't actively melting the ice.<ref> Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 3 Sechita Bshaar Dvarim 320:24). He references Lev Avraham 1:49 as also being lenient. </ref> | ||
