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===What is a Vessel for Sheuvim=== | ===What is a Vessel for Sheuvim=== | ||
# A vessel of any size can create sheuvim even if it is larger than 40 seah.<Ref>Mishna Mikvaot 4:1 states that a vessel big or small can create sheuvim. Tosfot Shabbat 16b writes that even if the vessel is larger than 40 seah which would render it not susceptible to tumah would still create sheuvim. Rosh Mikvaot n. 5 agrees. Shulchan Aruch YD 201:34 codifies this.</ref> | # A vessel of any size can create sheuvim even if it is larger than 40 seah.<Ref>Mishna Mikvaot 4:1 states that a vessel big or small can create sheuvim. Tosfot Shabbat 16b writes that even if the vessel is larger than 40 seah which would render it not susceptible to tumah would still create sheuvim. Rosh Mikvaot n. 5 agrees. Shulchan Aruch YD 201:34 codifies this.</ref> | ||
# A vessel of any material that can hold water is considered a vessel to create sheuvim, whether or not that material would be susceptible to tumah.<ref>The Mishna Mikvaot 4:1 writes that a vessel of stone or dung is called a vessel with respect to sheuvim. The Rash and Rosh point out that even though these materials wouldn’t be susceptible to tumah nonetheless the vessel which would hold water does create sheuvim. Shulchan Aruch YD 201:34 codifies this.</ref> | # A vessel of any material that can hold water is considered a vessel to create sheuvim, whether or not that material would be susceptible to tumah.<ref>The Mishna Mikvaot 4:1 writes that a vessel of stone or dung is called a vessel with respect to sheuvim. The Rash and Rosh point out that even though these materials wouldn’t be susceptible to tumah nonetheless the vessel which would hold water does create sheuvim. Shulchan Aruch YD 201:34 codifies this.</ref> | ||
# A flat board which has no rim or has a partial rim but couldn’t hold any water at all wouldn’t create sheuvim which water that passed over it.<ref>The Mishna Mikvaot 4:2 establishes that a tray only creates sheuvim if it has a rim that could contain water. This is codified by the Tur and Shulchan Aruch 201:35.</ref> | # A flat board which has no rim or has a partial rim but couldn’t hold any water at all wouldn’t create sheuvim which water that passed over it.<ref>The Mishna Mikvaot 4:2 establishes that a tray only creates sheuvim if it has a rim that could contain water. This is codified by the Tur and Shulchan Aruch 201:35.</ref> | ||
# If a vessel is in a position in which it can’t contain any water even though if it were sitting normally it would hold water doesn’t create shuevim.<ref>Mishna Mikvaot 4:2, Tur and Shulchan Aruch 201:35</ref> | # If a vessel is in a position in which it can’t contain any water even though if it were sitting normally it would hold water doesn’t create shuevim.<ref>Mishna Mikvaot 4:2, Tur and Shulchan Aruch 201:35. The Mishna (Mikvaot 4:2) establishes that a tray with a rim creates sheuvim when positioned normally but not when turned on its side so it can be cleaned from dirt. Rambam (Mikvaot 6:5) codifies this mishna and explains that it doesn't create sheuvim since it wasn't made to collect water. Shiltei Giborim b"b 35b understands that Rambam means it doesn't create sheuvim since the kli wasn't made originally to collect water. He explicitly learns that positioning a kli in a way that doesn't collect water isn't a create that it doesn't create sheuvim. However, Shaarei Knesset Hagedola (Hagahot Hatur 201:30) argues that Rambam indeed meant that the positioning matters; when it is positioned in a way that it can't collect water it doesn't create sheuvim even if it actually holds some water. Maaseh Roke'ach (Hilchot Mikvaot 6:5) also explains that the tray with a rim is meant to hold water. This also seems evident in Pirush Mishnayot of Rambam (Mikvaot 4:2 and Kelim 2:3). Gulot Ayilot (Mikvaot 4:2) explains like Shiltei Giborim that the tray isn't meant to collect water. That's why when it is on its side it doesn't create sheuvim. However, when it is placed to collect water it makes sheuvim since it is specifically intentionally engineered to draw water into a mikveh. Therefore, according to Shiltei Giborim and Gulot Ayilot, a kli that is meant to hold water creates sheuvim even if it is in a position that it isn't meant to hold water. However, according to Shaarei Knesset Hagedola the water isn't sheuvim. </ref> | ||
# Shingles on the roof aren’t considered vessel to create shuevim since they weren’t made to hold water.<Ref>Rashba (Torat Habayit Shaar Hamayim) writes that shingles on the roof don’t create sheuvim since they weren’t made to hold water (Mishna Mikvaot 4:3). This is codified by the Shulchan Aruch YD 201:37.</ref> | # Shingles on the roof aren’t considered vessel to create shuevim since they weren’t made to hold water.<Ref>Rashba (Torat Habayit Shaar Hamayim) writes that shingles on the roof don’t create sheuvim since they weren’t made to hold water (Mishna Mikvaot 4:3). This is codified by the Shulchan Aruch YD 201:37.</ref> | ||
# When dipping a pillow in the mikveh it would make the water sheuvim once it is picked up out of the mikveh.<ref>Mishna Mikvaot 6:5, Rambam Mikvaot 5:3</ref> | # When dipping a pillow in the mikveh it would make the water sheuvim once it is picked up out of the mikveh.<ref>Mishna Mikvaot 6:5, Rambam Mikvaot 5:3</ref> | ||
# If a vessel couldn’t hold water on its own but would hold water if propped up by other things it wouldn’t create sheuvim. - see bet yosef 201:34 it is kosher | # If a vessel couldn’t hold water on its own but would hold water if propped up by other things it wouldn’t create sheuvim. - see bet yosef 201:34 it is kosher | ||
===Pipes=== | ===Pipes=== | ||
# Pipes that have no receptacle don’t create sheuvim.<ref>Mishna Mikvaot 4:3, Rosh Mikvaot n. 6, Rambam Mikvaot 6:6, Tur and Shulchan Aruch YD 201:36</ref> | # Pipes that have no receptacle don’t create sheuvim.<ref>Mishna Mikvaot 4:3, Rosh Mikvaot n. 6, Rambam Mikvaot 6:6, Tur and Shulchan Aruch YD 201:36</ref> | ||
