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==Where Gilui Does Apply==
==Where Gilui Does Apply==
# This is only a sampling of examples. See the 8th Perek of Terumot, Rashba (Torat HaBayit Bayit 3 Shaar 4), Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1), and Pri Chadash (ad loc) for the comprehensive presentations.
# This is only a sampling of examples. See the 8th Perek of Terumot, Rashba (Torat HaBayit Bayit 3 Shaar 4), Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1), and Pri Chadash, and [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41145&st=&pgnum=47 Darkei Teshuvah] (ad loc) for the comprehensive presentations.


# The danger of leaving beverages uncovered applies on a most basic level to water, wine, and honey.<ref>Chullin 10a and 49b, Rif Avodah Zarah, Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1)</ref> Some say it applies to tzir or miryas (juice/brine from fish or meat, for example).<ref>See Beit Yosef ad loc who quotes how all three Amudei Horaah - the Rif, the Rambam (Hilchot Rotzeach 11:7), and the Rosh - pasken that Tzir is subject to gilui, but he thinks that's only true according to R' Shimon in Chullin 49b, whereas we hold like the Rabbanan, as the Rashba says. He opines that the Amudei Horaah were concerned for sakana even though it was minute chance. The Bach ad loc disagrees with the Beit Yosef, but the Pri Chadash ad loc argues back in his favor. Pri Toar and Shiurei Beracha ad loc bolster the Beit Yosef's view, as well.</ref>
# The danger of leaving beverages uncovered applies on a most basic level to water, wine, and honey.<ref>Chullin 10a and 49b, Rif Avodah Zarah, Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1)</ref> Some say it applies to tzir or miryas (juice/brine from fish or meat, for example).<ref>See Beit Yosef ad loc who quotes how all three Amudei Horaah - the Rif, the Rambam (Hilchot Rotzeach 11:7), and the Rosh - pasken that Tzir is subject to gilui, but he thinks that's only true according to R' Shimon in Chullin 49b, whereas we hold like the Rabbanan, as the Rashba says. He opines that the Amudei Horaah were concerned for sakana even though it was minute chance. The Bach ad loc disagrees with the Beit Yosef, but the Pri Chadash ad loc argues back in his favor. Pri Toar and Shiurei Beracha ad loc bolster the Beit Yosef's view, as well.</ref>
# Yayin Mazug: diluted wine.<ref>Avodah Zarah 30a. Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1) pins it on the taste of wine, but the Pri Chadash argues that taste is irrelevant, as it's diluted with water! He interprets the Tur, therefore, to be referring to a case where wine is diluted with other liquids.</ref>
# Yayin Mazug: diluted wine.<ref>Avodah Zarah 30a. Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1) pins it on the taste of wine, but the Pri Chadash argues that taste is irrelevant, as it's diluted with water! He interprets the Tur, therefore, to be referring to a case where wine is diluted with other liquids.</ref>
# Wine that has only begun to vinegar.<ref>Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1) according to Nehardaei in Avodah Zarah 30a</ref>
# Wine that has only begun to vinegar.<ref>Tur (Yoreh Deah 116:1) according to Nehardaei in Avodah Zarah 30a</ref>
==Where It Doesn't Apply==
==Where It Doesn't Apply==
# Yayin Mevushal: cooked wine.<ref>Avodah Zarah 30a. See [[]] regarding the definition of mevushal. See Beit Yosef and Erech Lechem (Yoreh Deah 116:1) regarding wine which has steam coming up out of it.</ref>
# Yayin Mevushal: cooked wine.<ref>Avodah Zarah 30a. See [[]] regarding the definition of mevushal. See Beit Yosef and Erech Lechem (Yoreh Deah 116:1) regarding wine which has steam coming up out of it.</ref>