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[https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/818822/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-holding-the-schach-down-with-zipties/ Rav Aryeh Lebowitz] explains that the only issue of zip ties is maamid since it enables the schach to be held in place and not blow away. The entire issue of maamid is rabbinic and initially an issue but not after the fact. If the schach would be able to withstand normal winds then you can add the zip ties to add security so it doesn't blow off in an uncommon wind (ruach sheino metzuya). [https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/seasonal/431/guide-to-star-k-certified-schach/ Star-K] and [https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-news/ou-kosher-experts-answer-sukkot-questons-sukkah-schach-eating-sukkah/ OU] come to the same conclusion in terms of it only being an issue if it is going to blow away in a normal wind.</ref> | [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/818822/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-holding-the-schach-down-with-zipties/ Rav Aryeh Lebowitz] explains that the only issue of zip ties is maamid since it enables the schach to be held in place and not blow away. The entire issue of maamid is rabbinic and initially an issue but not after the fact. If the schach would be able to withstand normal winds then you can add the zip ties to add security so it doesn't blow off in an uncommon wind (ruach sheino metzuya). [https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/seasonal/431/guide-to-star-k-certified-schach/ Star-K] and [https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-news/ou-kosher-experts-answer-sukkot-questons-sukkah-schach-eating-sukkah/ OU] come to the same conclusion in terms of it only being an issue if it is going to blow away in a normal wind.</ref> | ||
# One shouldn't use [[schach]] with a foul odor or whose leaves are falling off because there is a concern that the person may come to leave his [[sukkah]] because of the smell or the leaves falling on him.<ref> Rambam ([[Sukkah]] 5:1), Shulchan Aruch O.C. 629:14, Chazon Ovadia pg. 30, Magen Avraham 629:15, Kaf Hachaim 639:81 </ref> After the fact, it is valid.<ref>Rambam ([[Sukkah]] 5:1)</ref> | # One shouldn't use [[schach]] with a foul odor or whose leaves are falling off because there is a concern that the person may come to leave his [[sukkah]] because of the smell or the leaves falling on him.<ref> Rambam ([[Sukkah]] 5:1), Shulchan Aruch O.C. 629:14, Chazon Ovadia pg. 30, Magen Avraham 629:15, Kaf Hachaim 639:81 </ref> After the fact, it is valid.<ref>Rambam ([[Sukkah]] 5:1)</ref> | ||
#Some poskim hold that placing wooden beams on top of a metal frame and schach on top is considered indirect maamid (''maamid d'maamid'') and is kosher (Picture #1).<ref>Drishu 629:20 quoting Kaf Hachaim 626:42, Mikrei Kodesh 1:21 as well as Chut Shani p. 210 and Kehilat Yakov 18 in understanding the Magen Avraham. This is also evident in Chazon Ovadia p. 46 </ref> Others hold that it is only permitted if the wooden beams are significantly supporting the schach such that if they were removed the schach would fall (Picture #2).<ref>Drishu 629:20 quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Minchat Shlomo 2:55 and Halichot Shlomo ch. 8 fnt. 37) and Rav Elyashiv (Ashrei Ish 3:25:25)</ref> | |||
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Maamid_dmaamid_1.png|Picture #1:Maamid dmaamid for Kaf Hachaim | |||
Maamid_dmaamid_2.png|Picture #2:Maamid dmaamid for Rav Auerbach | |||
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==Sukkah Built Underneath a Tree or House== | ==Sukkah Built Underneath a Tree or House== | ||
