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==When we say it==
==When we say it==
# From the [[Mussaf]] of the last day of [[Sukkot]] until the [[Mussaf]] of the first day of [[Pesach]] (the winter months) we add in the phrase Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem. <Ref>S"A 114:1, Kitzur S"A 19:1 </ref>
# From the [[Mussaf]] of the last day of [[Sukkot]] until the [[Mussaf]] of the first day of [[Pesach]] (the winter months) we add in the phrase Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 114:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 19:1 </ref>
# one may not begin reciting “Mashiv Haruach” in the Amida prayer until the Hazan announces before Musaf on Shemini Aseret that it should be recited. <ref> S"A 114:2 </ref>
# one may not begin reciting “Mashiv Haruach” in the Amida prayer until the Hazan announces before Musaf on Shemini Aseret that it should be recited. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 114:2 </ref>
==If one made a mistake in the winter==
==If one made a mistake in the winter==
# In the winter, if one forgot to say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and  
# In the winter, if one forgot to say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and  
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* The Ravyah (quoted in the Mordechai (Tanit Siman 612, the first piece of Tanit) explains that if one said Mashiv HaRuach in the summer returning to Mechalkel Chaim isn’t sufficient because it’s not recognizable that one is making an omission (as one says that everyday) rather one should start from the beginning of the Bracha and then the omission of Mashiv HaRuach is evident.  
* The Ravyah (quoted in the Mordechai (Tanit Siman 612, the first piece of Tanit) explains that if one said Mashiv HaRuach in the summer returning to Mechalkel Chaim isn’t sufficient because it’s not recognizable that one is making an omission (as one says that everyday) rather one should start from the beginning of the Bracha and then the omission of Mashiv HaRuach is evident.  
* However, the Bet Yosef 114:4 understands the Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 10:8) as saying that if one said Morid HaGeshem even if one didn’t finish the Bracha one must return to the beginning of [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. Some poskim rule like the Rambam (see next footnote).
* However, the Bet Yosef 114:4 understands the Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 10:8) as saying that if one said Morid HaGeshem even if one didn’t finish the Bracha one must return to the beginning of [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. Some poskim rule like the Rambam (see next footnote).
* The Tur and S”A 114:4 rule like the Rosh and Ravyah. Kitzur S"A 19:4 concurs.</ref> Some say that even if one didn't finish the bracha yet one should return to the beginning of Shemona Esrei. <ref>Biur HaGra 114:4 based on Rambam, Beiur Halacha s.v. VeChozer</ref>
* The Tur and S”A 114:4 rule like the Rosh and Ravyah. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 19:4 concurs.</ref> Some say that even if one didn't finish the bracha yet one should return to the beginning of Shemona Esrei. <ref>Biur HaGra 114:4 based on Rambam, Beiur Halacha s.v. VeChozer</ref>
# If one mistakenly said Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and remembers before the end of the end Bracha one should return to the beginning of the Bracha (Atta Gibor), however, if one didn’t and only said Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and continued with Mechalkel Chaim and then completed the Bracha one fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref>Mishna Brurah 114:19 (see also previous footnote)</ref>
# If one mistakenly said Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and remembers before the end of the end Bracha one should return to the beginning of the Bracha (Atta Gibor), however, if one didn’t and only said Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and continued with Mechalkel Chaim and then completed the Bracha one fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref>Mishna Brurah 114:19 (see also previous footnote)</ref>
# Similarly, if one mistakenly said both Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and also Morid HaTal and finished the Bracha one must start [[Shemoneh Esrei]] again. <Ref>Rama 114:4 (see earlier footnote) </ref>
# Similarly, if one mistakenly said both Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and also Morid HaTal and finished the Bracha one must start [[Shemoneh Esrei]] again. <Ref>Rama 114:4 (see earlier footnote) </ref>