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* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside Israel who goes to Israel do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in Israel not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside Israel should not say them when in Israel. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim. | * In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside Israel who goes to Israel do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in Israel not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside Israel should not say them when in Israel. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim. | ||
* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref> | * In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref> | ||
# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur S"A 70:4</ref> | |||
# It’s forbidden to interrupt (with speech) between Gaal Yisrael and starting [[Shemoneh Esrei]] just like in Shacharit. However, by Maariv it’s permissible to announce [[Rosh Chodesh]] or [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] between Kaddish and Maariv (which would be forbidden by Shacharit). <Ref>S”A 236:2, Mishna Brurah 236:9 </ref> | # It’s forbidden to interrupt (with speech) between Gaal Yisrael and starting [[Shemoneh Esrei]] just like in Shacharit. However, by Maariv it’s permissible to announce [[Rosh Chodesh]] or [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] between Kaddish and Maariv (which would be forbidden by Shacharit). <Ref>S”A 236:2, Mishna Brurah 236:9 </ref> | ||
# If one concludes Shomer Amo Yisrael LeAd together with the Shalich Tzibbur one should answer Amen. <Ref>BeYitzchak Yikra 236:13 </ref> | # If one concludes Shomer Amo Yisrael LeAd together with the Shalich Tzibbur one should answer Amen. <Ref>BeYitzchak Yikra 236:13 </ref> | ||
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==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit== | ==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit== | ||
#If there’s only one person left in shul Davening after Arvit/Maariv at night, one should wait around for that last person so that he isn’t rushed in Davening. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on Brachot 5b</ref> | #If there’s only one person left in shul Davening after Arvit/Maariv at night, one should wait around for that last person so that he isn’t rushed in Davening. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on Brachot 5b, Kitzur S"A 70:5</ref> | ||
#Some are strict to wait for the last person Davening even after Shacharit and Mincha. <Ref> Rama 90:15 </ref> | #Some are strict to wait for the last person Davening even after Shacharit and Mincha. <Ref> Rama 90:15 </ref> | ||
# In a shul that’s in the fields one must wait for the last person even after Shacharit and Mincha. <Ref>S”A 90:15 </ref> | # In a shul that’s in the fields one must wait for the last person even after Shacharit and Mincha. <Ref>S”A 90:15 </ref> | ||
# However, if the last person Davening is extending his prayers (adding more requests) one doesn’t have to wait for such a person. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim). </ref> | # However, if the last person Davening is extending his prayers (adding more requests) one doesn’t have to wait for such a person. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim). </ref> | ||
# If the last person Davening entered so late that he couldn’t finish in time to complete Davening with the tzibbur, one doesn’t have to wait for him. <Ref> Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim) writes that one only has to wait for the person if he came in with enough time to finish with everyone else, however if when he entered he didn’t have time to complete his Davening with the tzibbur, he shows that he doesn’t mind leaving alone. Mishna Brurah 90:48 | # If the last person Davening entered so late that he couldn’t finish in time to complete Davening with the tzibbur, one doesn’t have to wait for him. <Ref> Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim) writes that one only has to wait for the person if he came in with enough time to finish with everyone else, however if when he entered he didn’t have time to complete his Davening with the tzibbur, he shows that he doesn’t mind leaving alone. Kitzur S"A 70:5 and Mishna Brurah 90:48 codify this as Halacha. </ref> | ||
==Questions and Answers== | ==Questions and Answers== | ||
