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* The Tur 336 writes that originally when the shuls were in the fields where people were afraid to stay there too late. Therefore instead of [[davening]] a full [[Shmoneh Esrei]] they would recite the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. The Tur writes that nowadays there are two different Minhagim as to whether we should say the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. and “Yiru” or not. Mishna Brurah 236:5 also writes that the minhag is to say it but some gedolim had the minhag not to say it. | * The Tur 336 writes that originally when the shuls were in the fields where people were afraid to stay there too late. Therefore instead of [[davening]] a full [[Shmoneh Esrei]] they would recite the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. The Tur writes that nowadays there are two different Minhagim as to whether we should say the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. and “Yiru” or not. Mishna Brurah 236:5 also writes that the minhag is to say it but some gedolim had the minhag not to say it. | ||
* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim. | * In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim. | ||
* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref> | * In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref> | ||
# Sephardim don't have the minhag to say Yiru Aynenu.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 236:12 citing the Arizal</ref> | |||
# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref> | # The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref> | ||
