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* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim. | * In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim. | ||
* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref> | * In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref> | ||
# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur | # The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref> | ||
==Coming late to Maariv== | ==Coming late to Maariv== | ||
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==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit== | ==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit== | ||
#If there’s only one person left in shul [[Davening]] after [[Arvit]]/Maariv at night, one should wait around for that last person so that he isn’t rushed in [[Davening]]. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on [[Brachot]] 5b, Kitzur | #If there’s only one person left in shul [[Davening]] after [[Arvit]]/Maariv at night, one should wait around for that last person so that he isn’t rushed in [[Davening]]. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on [[Brachot]] 5b, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:5</ref> | ||
#Some are strict to wait for the last person [[Davening]] even after [[Shacharit]] and [[Mincha]]. <Ref> Rama 90:15 </ref> | #Some are strict to wait for the last person [[Davening]] even after [[Shacharit]] and [[Mincha]]. <Ref> Rama 90:15 </ref> | ||
# In a shul that’s in the fields one must wait for the last person even after [[Shacharit]] and [[Mincha]]. <Ref>S”A 90:15 </ref> | # In a shul that’s in the fields one must wait for the last person even after [[Shacharit]] and [[Mincha]]. <Ref>S”A 90:15 </ref> | ||
# However, if the last person Davening is extending his prayers (adding more requests) one doesn’t have to wait for such a person. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim). </ref> | # However, if the last person Davening is extending his prayers (adding more requests) one doesn’t have to wait for such a person. <Ref> S”A 90:15 based on Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim). </ref> | ||
# If the last person Davening entered so late that he couldn’t finish in time to complete Davening with the tzibbur, one doesn’t have to wait for him. <Ref> Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim) writes that one only has to wait for the person if he came in with enough time to finish with everyone else, however if when he entered he didn’t have time to complete his Davening with the tzibbur, he shows that he doesn’t mind leaving alone. Kitzur | # If the last person Davening entered so late that he couldn’t finish in time to complete Davening with the tzibbur, one doesn’t have to wait for him. <Ref> Talmedei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 3a D”H Shnayim) writes that one only has to wait for the person if he came in with enough time to finish with everyone else, however if when he entered he didn’t have time to complete his Davening with the tzibbur, he shows that he doesn’t mind leaving alone. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:5 and Mishna Brurah 90:48 codify this as Halacha. </ref> | ||
==Arvit of Motzaei Shabbat== | ==Arvit of Motzaei Shabbat== | ||
