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# If two ingredients were kneaded together before [[Shabbat]], it is permissible to add liquid and even mix slowly.<ref> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 321:15, Mishna Brurah 321:58, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:7 </ref>
# If two ingredients were kneaded together before [[Shabbat]], it is permissible to add liquid and even mix slowly.<ref> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 321:15, Mishna Brurah 321:58, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:7 </ref>
# Therefore, if oil separated from peanut butter and floats on top of it, it's permissible to remix it. It would even be permissible to add more liquids. Adding more solids, however, is forbidden.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:7 </ref>
# Therefore, if oil separated from peanut butter and floats on top of it, it's permissible to remix it. It would even be permissible to add more liquids. Adding more solids, however, is forbidden.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:7 </ref>
==A mixture in which the ingredients were precooked==
# Some say that it is permitted to mix a little amount of liquid with instant coffee or sugar and mix it gently. <Ref> Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:20, pg 308) based on the fact that the powders are precooked. </ref>


==Making a thin mixture==
==Making a thin mixture==
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==Cooked Foods==
==Cooked Foods==
# Many hold that there is no prohibition of losh on a cooked food. Therefore, one may mix margarine into a baked potato or mix cinnamon or raisins into a cooked cereal (like oatmeal).<ref> Shulchan Aruch 321:19 rules based on the Rambam (responsa 109) that one may stir a dish of grits and meat and mash them so that they dissolve and form into one mass. Bach 321 questions the Rambam and says that one may only stir gently. Magen Avraham 321:28 agrees. However, the Taz 321:14 writes that since the meat and grits have been mixed with water and cooked before shabbos, there is no problem of losh in mixing it again. Chazon Ish 58:9 agrees if there is some liquid there from before Shabbos, one may then put in more on Shabbos. Biur Halacha 321:14 s.v. shema adds another reason to be lenient with stirring food that is already cooked; since it is already fit for eating, the kneading becomes part of the process preparing it for eating, derech achila, and would be permitted if you stirred a little bit at a time. Mishna Brura 321:77 advises following the strict views of the Bach and Magen Avraham. Chazon Ish 58:9 allows stirring even vigorously. 39 Melachos (pg. 540) writes that you can mix margarine into a baked potato. Shemirat Shabbos KeHilchata (8:24) agrees and adds (8:25) that you can mix cinnamon or raisins into oatmeal.<br/> </ref>
# Many hold that there is no prohibition of losh on a cooked food. Therefore, one may mix margarine into a baked potato or mix cinnamon or raisins into a cooked cereal (like oatmeal).<ref> Shulchan Aruch 321:19 rules based on the Rambam (responsa 109) that one may stir a dish of grits and meat and mash them so that they dissolve and form into one mass. Bach 321 questions the Rambam and says that one may only stir gently. Magen Avraham 321:28 agrees. However, the Taz 321:14 writes that since the meat and grits have been mixed with water and cooked before shabbos, there is no problem of losh in mixing it again. Chazon Ish 58:9 agrees if there is some liquid there from before Shabbos, one may then put in more on Shabbos. Biur Halacha 321:14 s.v. shema adds another reason to be lenient with stirring food that is already cooked; since it is already fit for eating, the kneading becomes part of the process preparing it for eating, derech achila, and would be permitted if you stirred a little bit at a time. Mishna Brura 321:77 advises following the strict views of the Bach and Magen Avraham. Chazon Ish 58:9 allows stirring even vigorously. 39 Melachos (pg. 540) writes that you can mix margarine into a baked potato. Shemirat Shabbos KeHilchata (8:24) agrees and adds (8:25) that you can mix cinnamon or raisins into oatmeal.<br/> </ref>
# Some say that it is permitted to mix a little amount of liquid with instant coffee or sugar and mix it gently. <Ref> Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:20, pg 308) based on the fact that the powders are precooked. </ref>


==Practical Examples==
==Practical Examples==
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