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## If there is no liquid added and there’s no way that the ingredients will fuse it’s permitted to mix the ingredients. For example, it's permissible to mix sugar and cocoa powder or cinnamon. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Chut HaSheni (vol 1 pg 105) agrees.</ref> | ## If there is no liquid added and there’s no way that the ingredients will fuse it’s permitted to mix the ingredients. For example, it's permissible to mix sugar and cocoa powder or cinnamon. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Chut HaSheni (vol 1 pg 105) agrees.</ref> | ||
## It's permissible to pour honey on whole nuts. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. </ref> | ## It's permissible to pour honey on whole nuts. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. </ref> | ||
## One may pour gravy on rice and mix it. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:24) </ref> | |||
# Kneading flour and water is a violation of the biblical prohibition of Losh (kneading).<ref> As is evident from gemara Shabbat (18a), mixing flour and water is a violation of Losh (Menuchat Ahava 9:1). Chut HaSheni (Shabbat vol 1 pg 105) defines Losh as the prohibition to mix two ingredients using a liquid to form a dough. </ref> | # Kneading flour and water is a violation of the biblical prohibition of Losh (kneading).<ref> As is evident from gemara Shabbat (18a), mixing flour and water is a violation of Losh (Menuchat Ahava 9:1). Chut HaSheni (Shabbat vol 1 pg 105) defines Losh as the prohibition to mix two ingredients using a liquid to form a dough. </ref> | ||
==Combining the ingredients== | ==Combining the ingredients== | ||
# Just as it is forbidden to knead two ingredients together so too it is forbidden to pour one onto the other so that they will mix automatically. Therefore it is forbidden to pour water onto flour or flour onto water on Shabbat. <ref> In Gemara Shabbat (18a) there is a dispute whether one is liable for violating Losh by simply pouring liquid into flour or only if one both pours in the water and mixes it. The majority of the Rishonim hold that one isn't biblically liable until one has both poured in water and mixed it into dough (Mishna Brurah 321:50), nonetheless, Mishna Brurah 321:57 (quoting the Magan Avraham) there is a rabbinic prohibition even for just pouring liquid into flour or the opposite. This is also the ruling of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:5, 39 Melachos (by Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 531), and Menuchat Ahava 9:1. </ref> | # Just as it is forbidden to knead two ingredients together so too it is forbidden to pour one onto the other so that they will mix automatically. Therefore it is forbidden to pour water onto flour or flour onto water on Shabbat. <ref> In Gemara Shabbat (18a) there is a dispute whether one is liable for violating Losh by simply pouring liquid into flour or only if one both pours in the water and mixes it. The majority of the Rishonim hold that one isn't biblically liable until one has both poured in water and mixed it into dough (Mishna Brurah 321:50), nonetheless, Mishna Brurah 321:57 (quoting the Magan Avraham) there is a rabbinic prohibition even for just pouring liquid into flour or the opposite. This is also the ruling of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:5, 39 Melachos (by Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 531), and Menuchat Ahava 9:1. </ref> | ||
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==Making a watery mixture== | ==Making a watery mixture== | ||
# It is permitted to mix solid particles with a lot of liquid if it will result in a very watery mixture such as making baby formula from powder and water. Nonetheless, one must be careful to pour in the liquid at once and not gradually. <Ref> Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 147), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:13, pg 302) </ref> | # It is permitted to mix solid particles with a lot of liquid if it will result in a very watery mixture such as making baby formula from powder and water. Nonetheless, one must be careful to pour in the liquid at once and not gradually. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new edition 8:29), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 147), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:13, pg 302) </ref> | ||
==Cooked foods== | |||
# Foods which were cooked and softened may be mixed with liquids on Shabbat. Therefore one may mash potatoes which were softened in the cooking process so that they are easily mashed. One may even mash it with the prongs of a fork and even mix in liquid such as gravy. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:24) </ref> | |||
# One may mix cinnamon or raisins into a cooked cereal (like oatmeal). <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:25) </ref> | |||
==Mashing a banana== | ==Mashing a banana== | ||
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# However it is forbidden to add any liquid to such a mixture. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:3 </ref> | # However it is forbidden to add any liquid to such a mixture. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:3 </ref> | ||
==Making salad== | ==Making vegetable salad== | ||
# The prohibition of kneading does not apply to large chunks of food which will be distinct even after being mixed. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4, Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) </ref> | # The prohibition of kneading does not apply to large chunks of food which will be distinct even after being mixed. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4, Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) </ref> | ||
## For example, one may dress a salad (with oil, vinegar, mayonnaise, and seasoning) if the vegetables are slightly large pieces. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) agrees. </ref> | ## For example, one may dress a salad (with oil, vinegar, mayonnaise, and seasoning) if the vegetables are slightly large pieces. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) agrees. </ref> | ||
==Making egg salad== | |||
# To avoid all issues it’s preferable to make egg salad before Shabbat. However, if one didn’t, one may do so on Shabbat in the following manner: One may peel the eggs right before the meal and then mash them even with the prongs of a fork. Then peel the onions right before the meal and cut them in slightly large pieces and then mix it. The minhag is to mix in oil without any variations, however, it’s proper to make above variations (in order of putting in ingredients and way of mixing). <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:28) </ref> | |||
## One mix in cooked potatoes using the handle of a fork, or if the potatoes are very soft because of the cooking one may mix it with the prongs of the fork. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:28) </ref> | |||
## If egg shell got mixed into the salad one may only remove it together with a bit of other food, but preferably one shouldn’t remove the egg shell but just eat around it. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:28) </ref> | |||
==Instant mashed potatoes== | ==Instant mashed potatoes== | ||
# One may not make instant mashed potatoes as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Practical Laws of Shabbat (Rabbi Rafael Soae, vol 2, pg 111), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 164), See Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #7) </ref> | # One may not make instant mashed potatoes as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:29), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Practical Laws of Shabbat (Rabbi Rafael Soae, vol 2, pg 111), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 164), See Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #7) </ref> | ||
==Instant pudding== | ==Instant pudding== | ||
# One may not make instant pudding as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 164), See Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #7) </ref> | # One may not make instant pudding as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:29), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 164), See Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #7) </ref> | ||
==Mayonnaise== | |||
# One may not make thick mayonnaise on Shabbat and thin mayonnaise preferably should be made before Shabbat. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new edition 11:33) </ref> | |||
==Other examples== | ==Other examples== | ||
