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# The prohibition of [[kneading]] does not apply to large chunks of food which will be distinct even after being mixed. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 8:4, [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) </ref> | # The prohibition of [[kneading]] does not apply to large chunks of food which will be distinct even after being mixed. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 8:4, [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) </ref> | ||
## For example, one may dress a salad (with oil, vinegar, mayonnaise, and seasoning) if the vegetables are slightly large pieces. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) agrees. </ref> | ## For example, one may dress a salad (with oil, vinegar, mayonnaise, and seasoning) if the vegetables are slightly large pieces. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) agrees. </ref> | ||
#When making salads with mayonnaise, such as egg salad or mayonnaise with vegetables, one should first put in the mayonnaise and then the salad since that is different than the way one would do it during the week. Also, one should mix with a [[shinuy]] such as criss-cross and not in a circle.<ref>Or Letzion 2:33:3 writes that when making salad with mayonnaise one should first put in the mayonnaise and then the salad since that is different than the way one would do it during the week. Also, one should mix with a shinuy such as criss cross and not in a circle. [http://www.cckollel.org/parsha_encounters/5769/devarim_69.pdf Rabbi Langer (Chicago Kollel Devarim 5769)] cites Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 8:33 as holding that preferably a person should do both shinuyim when making egg or tuna salad.<ref> Some say that it isn't necessary to make a shinuy in the pouring.<ref>Orchot Shabbat 1:6:18 cites the Shevitat Hashabbat (Intro to Losh n. 6) who limits losh to water or liquids that permeate the solids to consolidate them and it wouldn't apply to thick fatty liquids such as mayonnaise. Orchot Shabbat is willing to rely on this opinion with respect to pour the ingredients together since anyway we really hold like the opinion that losh is violating by kneading and not pouring (Rabbi Yosi Bar Yehuda). He concludes that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach liked this approach.</ref> | #When making salads with mayonnaise, such as egg salad or mayonnaise with vegetables, one should first put in the mayonnaise and then the salad since that is different than the way one would do it during the week. Also, one should mix with a [[shinuy]] such as criss-cross and not in a circle.<ref>Or Letzion 2:33:3 writes that when making salad with mayonnaise one should first put in the mayonnaise and then the salad since that is different than the way one would do it during the week. Also, one should mix with a shinuy such as criss cross and not in a circle. [http://www.cckollel.org/parsha_encounters/5769/devarim_69.pdf Rabbi Langer (Chicago Kollel Devarim 5769)] cites Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 8:33 as holding that preferably a person should do both shinuyim when making egg or tuna salad.</ref> Some say that it isn't necessary to make a shinuy in the pouring.<ref>Orchot Shabbat 1:6:18 cites the Shevitat Hashabbat (Intro to Losh n. 6) who limits losh to water or liquids that permeate the solids to consolidate them and it wouldn't apply to thick fatty liquids such as mayonnaise. Orchot Shabbat is willing to rely on this opinion with respect to pour the ingredients together since anyway we really hold like the opinion that losh is violating by kneading and not pouring (Rabbi Yosi Bar Yehuda). He concludes that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach liked this approach.</ref> | ||
===Making Egg Salad=== | ===Making Egg Salad=== | ||
