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==Definition and basics== | ==Definition and basics== | ||
# In order to violate the biblical prohibition of Losh (1) there is a mixture of two ingredients, (2) one of the ingredients has to be powdery like flour, chopped (like chopped eggs), or thick (like jam), and (3) the mixture forms a thick dough-like substance <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:1 </ref> | # In order to violate the biblical prohibition of Losh (1) there is a mixture of two ingredients, (2) one of the ingredients has to be powdery like flour, chopped (like chopped eggs), or thick (like jam), and (3) the mixture forms a thick dough-like substance <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:1 </ref> | ||
# It’s forbidden to mix two ingredients when they combine either (1) because one of them is a liquid, (2) there is liquid naturally present in one of the ingredients (such as a fruit), or (3) one of the ingredients is a thick coagulating substance (such as mayonnaise). <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:1, | # It’s forbidden to mix two ingredients when they combine either (1) because one of them is a liquid, (2) there is liquid naturally present in one of the ingredients (such as a fruit), or (3) one of the ingredients is a thick coagulating substance (such as mayonnaise). <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:1, Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) </ref> | ||
## If there is no liquid added and there’s no way that the ingredients will fuse it’s permitted to mix the ingredients. For example, it's permissible to mix sugar and cocoa powder or cinnamon. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Chut HaSheni (vol 1 pg 105) agrees.</ref> | ## If there is no liquid added and there’s no way that the ingredients will fuse it’s permitted to mix the ingredients. For example, it's permissible to mix sugar and cocoa powder or cinnamon. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Chut HaSheni (vol 1 pg 105) agrees.</ref> | ||
## It's permissible to pour honey on whole nuts. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. </ref> | ## It's permissible to pour honey on whole nuts. <ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. </ref> | ||
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=== What is considered a change in the order?=== | === What is considered a change in the order?=== | ||
# A variation in the order means that if one normally puts the solid ingredient in first, then one should put the liquid ingredient in first, if one normally puts the liquid in first, then put the solid in first. If there is no set order then one should put the solid in first. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:9 </ref> | # A variation in the order means that if one normally puts the solid ingredient in first, then one should put the liquid ingredient in first, if one normally puts the liquid in first, then put the solid in first. If there is no set order then one should put the solid in first. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:9 </ref> | ||
# If one doesn’t know what order is the common practice one may assume that the instructions on the package is the common practice and one may reverse the order of that. <Ref> | # If one doesn’t know what order is the common practice one may assume that the instructions on the package is the common practice and one may reverse the order of that. <Ref> Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 150) quoting Rav Shienburg </ref> | ||
# If there’s no clear common practice one such put the solids first and then the liquid. However, one should only use this leniency in cases of necessity. <Ref> | # If there’s no clear common practice one such put the solids first and then the liquid. However, one should only use this leniency in cases of necessity. <Ref> Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 150) </ref> | ||
# If there is no liquid but only a coagulating substance (ex: mayonnaise) there is no need to change the order in combining the ingredients. <Ref> | # If there is no liquid but only a coagulating substance (ex: mayonnaise) there is no need to change the order in combining the ingredients. <Ref> Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 151) </ref> | ||
=== What is considered a change in mixing?=== | === What is considered a change in mixing?=== | ||
# If possible one should stir it with one’s finger or mix it by moving the bowl. If that’s not possible one should use an instrument but mix in a criss cross manner and preferably remove the utensil after each stroke. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:9 </ref> according to some mixing it with the handle of the spoon or knife is sufficient. <ref>Sh"t Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #6, in some editions #11), 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 545). | # If possible one should stir it with one’s finger or mix it by moving the bowl. If that’s not possible one should use an instrument but mix in a criss cross manner and preferably remove the utensil after each stroke. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:9 </ref> according to some mixing it with the handle of the spoon or knife is sufficient. <ref>Sh"t Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #6, in some editions #11), 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 545). Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 153) agrees and adds that this isn't sufficient for a thick mixture.</ref> | ||
==Making a thick mixture== | ==Making a thick mixture== | ||
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==Making a watery mixture== | ==Making a watery mixture== | ||
# It is permitted to mix solid particles with a lot of liquid if it will result in a very watery mixture such as making baby formula from powder and water. Nonetheless, one must be careful to pour in the liquid at once and not gradually. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new edition 8:29), | # It is permitted to mix solid particles with a lot of liquid if it will result in a very watery mixture such as making baby formula from powder and water. Nonetheless, one must be careful to pour in the liquid at once and not gradually. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new edition 8:29), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 147), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:13, pg 302) </ref> | ||
==Cooked foods== | ==Cooked foods== | ||
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==Making vegetable salad== | ==Making vegetable salad== | ||
# The prohibition of kneading does not apply to large chunks of food which will be distinct even after being mixed. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4, | # The prohibition of kneading does not apply to large chunks of food which will be distinct even after being mixed. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4, Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) </ref> | ||
## For example, one may dress a salad (with oil, vinegar, mayonnaise, and seasoning) if the vegetables are slightly large pieces. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. | ## For example, one may dress a salad (with oil, vinegar, mayonnaise, and seasoning) if the vegetables are slightly large pieces. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:4 explains that since the ingredients don't stick together into one dough. Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 143) agrees. </ref> | ||
==Making egg salad== | ==Making egg salad== | ||
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==Instant mashed potatoes== | ==Instant mashed potatoes== | ||
# One may not make instant mashed potatoes as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:29), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Practical Laws of [[Shabbat]] (Rabbi Rafael Soae, vol 2, pg 111), | # One may not make instant mashed potatoes as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:29), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Practical Laws of [[Shabbat]] (Rabbi Rafael Soae, vol 2, pg 111), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 164), See Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #7) </ref> | ||
==Instant pudding== | ==Instant pudding== | ||
# One may not make instant pudding as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:29), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), | # One may not make instant pudding as it is considered a thick mixture. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in new editions 8:29), Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:15, pg 304), Shabbat Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Cohen, chap 11, pg 164), See Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Losh #7) </ref> | ||
==Mayonnaise== | ==Mayonnaise== | ||
