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#Many poskim hold that there is no prohibition of losh to add liquids into cooked foods. Therefore, one may mix margarine into mashed potatoes.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 321:19 rules based on the Rambam (responsa 109) that one may stir a dish of grits and meat and mash them so that they dissolve and form into one mass. Bach 321 questions the Rambam and says that one may only stir gently. Magen Avraham 321:28 agrees. However, the Taz 321:14 writes that since the meat and grits have been mixed with water and cooked before shabbos, there is no problem of losh in mixing it again. Chazon Ish 58:9 agrees if there is some liquid there from before Shabbos, one may then put in more on Shabbos. Biur Halacha 321:14 s.v. shema adds another reason to be lenient with stirring food that is already cooked; since it is already fit for eating, the kneading becomes part of the process preparing it for eating, ''derech achila'', and would be permitted if you stirred a little bit at a time. Mishna Brura 321:77 advises following the strict views of the Bach and Magen Avraham. Chazon Ish 58:9 allows stirring even vigorously. 39 Melachos (pg. 540) writes that you can mix margarine, butter, or oil into a baked carrots or mashed potatoes. Shemirat Shabbos Kehilchata 8:24 agrees.</ref>
#Many poskim hold that there is no prohibition of losh to add liquids into cooked foods. Therefore, one may mix margarine into mashed potatoes.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 321:19 rules based on the Rambam (responsa 109) that one may stir a dish of grits and meat and mash them so that they dissolve and form into one mass. Bach 321 questions the Rambam and says that one may only stir gently. Magen Avraham 321:28 agrees. However, the Taz 321:14 writes that since the meat and grits have been mixed with water and cooked before shabbos, there is no problem of losh in mixing it again. Chazon Ish 58:9 agrees if there is some liquid there from before Shabbos, one may then put in more on Shabbos. Biur Halacha 321:14 s.v. shema adds another reason to be lenient with stirring food that is already cooked; since it is already fit for eating, the kneading becomes part of the process preparing it for eating, ''derech achila'', and would be permitted if you stirred a little bit at a time. Mishna Brura 321:77 advises following the strict views of the Bach and Magen Avraham. Chazon Ish 58:9 allows stirring even vigorously. 39 Melachos (pg. 540) writes that you can mix margarine, butter, or oil into a baked carrots or mashed potatoes. Shemirat Shabbos Kehilchata 8:24 agrees.</ref>
#It is permitted to mix cinnamon or raisins into a cooked cereal such as oatmeal.<ref>Shemirat Shabbos Kehilchata 8:25 cites Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach who based on Biur Halacha 314:21 s.v. shema's first answer thinks that there's no Biblical losh on cooked foods permits even adding cinnamon or raisins into cooked oatmeal cereal. However, in the footnote he adds that raisins in cooked cereal doesn't become a dough unit and isn't losh at all.</ref>
#It is permitted to mix cinnamon or raisins into a cooked cereal such as oatmeal.<ref>Shemirat Shabbos Kehilchata 8:25 cites Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach who based on Biur Halacha 314:21 s.v. shema's first answer thinks that there's no biblical losh on cooked foods permits even adding cinnamon or raisins into cooked oatmeal cereal. However, in the footnote he adds that raisins in cooked cereal doesn't become a dough unit and isn't losh at all.</ref>
#Some say that it is permitted to mix a little amount of liquid with instant coffee or sugar and mix it gently.<ref>Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:20, pg 308) based on the fact that the powders are precooked. </ref>
#Some say that it is permitted to mix a little amount of liquid with instant coffee or sugar and mix it gently.<ref>Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 9:20, pg 308) based on the fact that the powders are precooked. </ref>


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===Guacamole===
===Guacamole===
 
#If one wants to have guacamole on Shabbat and it wouldn't be fresh if made in advance one should mash the avocado with the handle of the spoon or the like. To add in onions, tomatoes, lemon juice, or spices and avoid the issue of losh, one would have to use a double shinui. That is, one should put in the lemon juice or spices first and then the avocado and mix it with the back of a spoon or with a criss-cross action.<ref>Or Letzion 2:33:5, [http://www.eretzhemdah.org/newsletterArticle.asp?lang=en&pageid=48&cat=7&newsletter=1058&article=4004 Rav Daniel Mann]. Orchot Shabbat 6:15:1 clarifies that even when discussing a belili avah we hold that if it would spoil if it was made before Shabbat it is permitted to be made on Shabbat. Nonetheless, one must use a shinuy in the mixing and it is preferable to make a shinuy in the order of how the ingredients are put in.</ref>
#If one wants to make fresh guacamole on Shabbos one should mash the avocado with the handle of the spoon or the like. To add in onions, tomatoes, lemon juice, or spices and avoid the issue of losh, one would have to use a double shinui. That is, one should put in the lemon juice or spices first and then the avocado and mix it with the back of a spoon or with a criss-cross action.<ref>Or Letzion 2:33:5, [http://www.eretzhemdah.org/newsletterArticle.asp?lang=en&pageid=48&cat=7&newsletter=1058&article=4004 Rav Daniel Mann]</ref>


===Yogurt===
===Yogurt===
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