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== When should one light Chanuka candles in the Shul?==
== When should one light Chanuka candles in the Shul?==
# The congregation should light Chanuka Candles between Mincha and Mariv even if it means lighting at sunset ([[Shekiyah]]) because the congregation would leave right after Mariv and there wouldn’t be Pirsume Nisa for the candles. <ref> Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 21b) says that if one wants he can light at Shkiah because there’s also Pirsume Nisa then. Orchot Chaim (Chanuka 15), Ritva and Ran on [[Shabbat]] 21b. Bach 672 says in Shul the Shaliach Tzibbur can light at Shkiah. Sh”t Shev Yacov 22 pg 28a says it’s established to light between Mincha and Mariv (and so says Avudraham 54d) and the reason is that if they light after Mariv the whole congregation would leave. Sh”t Zivchai Tzedek (O”C 2:29,3:112 pg 213) writes that that was the Minhag of Bagdad based on the Yesh Omerim of S”A 672:2. So rules Chazon Ovadyah pg 69 and records that such is the Minhag Yerushalayim. Sh”t Shraga HaMeir 7:44 says that if the congregation forgot to light in between Mincha and Mariv they should light before Alenu so there’s a minyan still there. See also Yeraim 102e. </ref>
# The congregation should light Chanuka Candles between Mincha and Mariv even if it means lighting at sunset ([[Shekiyah]]) because the congregation would leave right after Mariv and there wouldn’t be Pirsume Nisa for the candles. <ref> Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 21b) says that if one wants he can light at Shkiah because there’s also Pirsume Nisa then. Orchot Chaim (Chanuka 15), Ritva and Ran on [[Shabbat]] 21b. Bach 672 says in Shul the Shaliach Tzibbur can light at Shkiah. Sh”t Shev Yacov 22 pg 28a says it’s established to light between Mincha and Mariv (and so says Avudraham 54d) and the reason is that if they light after Mariv the whole congregation would leave. Sh”t Zivchai Tzedek (O”C 2:29,3:112 pg 213) writes that that was the Minhag of Bagdad based on the Yesh Omerim of S”A 672:2. So rules Chazon Ovadyah pg 69 and records that such is the Minhag Yerushalayim. Sh”t Shraga HaMeir 7:44 says that if the congregation forgot to light in between Mincha and Mariv they should light before Alenu so there’s a minyan still there. See also Yeraim 102e. </ref>
# If a Shul has a few minyanim for Maariv, the Menorah should remain lit from before the first minyan until after the last minyan <ref> Rav Chaim Kanievsky quoted in Sefer Yimei Hallel ViHodaah page 299 footnote 53. He adds that if the Menorah burned out, or if the last minyan is much later than the first minyan, it should indeed be lit again before the last minyan with the berachot. </ref>
# If a Shul has a few minyanim for Maariv, the Menorah should remain lit from before the first minyan until after the last minyan <ref> Rav Chaim Kanievsky quoted in Sefer Yimei [[Hallel]] ViHodaah page 299 footnote 53. He adds that if the Menorah burned out, or if the last minyan is much later than the first minyan, it should indeed be lit again before the last minyan with the berachot. </ref>


# There is a practice to light in shul for Shacharit without a bracha. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 205). </ref>
# There is a practice to light in shul for Shacharit without a bracha. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 205). </ref>