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## Another example is the father of man and a father of a woman whose children are married (mechutanim) and aren't considered relatives.<ref>Shulchan Aruch CM 33:6</ref> | ## Another example is the father of man and a father of a woman whose children are married (mechutanim) and aren't considered relatives.<ref>Shulchan Aruch CM 33:6</ref> | ||
# A wife's relatives are one's own. For example, her children or children-in-law from another marriage, her parents or step-parents are all relatives.<ref>Shulchan Aruch CM 33:8</ref> There is a dispute about one's wife's grandparents if they are considered relatives for testimony.<ref>Sama 33:16 holds that a wife's grandparent's are not considered relatives. (See Sama 33:5 who says that it is a dispute between the Rambam and Rif who are lenient and the Rosh who is strict.) Bach 33:28 and Gra 33:23 agree. However, the Taz 33:8 argues that they are relatives. Darkei Moshe CM 33:7 and Bet Yosef CM 33:23 s.v. avi chamiv clearly hold like the Taz. | # A wife's relatives are one's own. For example, her children or children-in-law from another marriage, her parents or step-parents are all relatives.<ref>Shulchan Aruch CM 33:8</ref> There is a dispute about one's wife's grandparents if they are considered relatives for testimony.<ref>Sama 33:16 holds that a wife's grandparent's are not considered relatives. (See Sama 33:5 who says that it is a dispute between the Rambam and Rif who are lenient and the Rosh who is strict.) Bach 33:28 and Gra 33:23 agree. However, the Taz 33:8 argues that they are relatives. Darkei Moshe CM 33:7 and Bet Yosef CM 33:23 s.v. avi chamiv clearly hold like the Taz. | ||
* Tur CM 33:23 writes that a person is not a relative of one's wife's grandparents. However, Darkei Moshe and Bet Yosef disagree and emend the Tur, since one's wife's grandparents are a sheni brishon with one relationship through marriage (baal kishto), which the Tur 33:13-14 says is a relative. Also, Tur 33:28 says that a wife's grandchild are not relatives and in Tur 33:8 he says that a step-grandfather isn't a relative. Tur 33:28 implies that grandchildren's spouses are relatives. Bach 33:18 and 33:28 holds grandchildren's spouses are not relatives and rereads the Tur. </ref> | * Tur CM 33:23 writes that a person is not a relative of one's wife's grandparents. However, Darkei Moshe and Bet Yosef disagree and emend the Tur, since one's wife's grandparents are a sheni brishon with one relationship through marriage (baal kishto), which the Tur 33:13-14 says is a relative. Also, Tur 33:28 says that a wife's grandchild are not relatives and in Tur 33:8 he says that a step-grandfather isn't a relative. Tur 33:28 implies that grandchildren's spouses are relatives. Bach 33:18 and 33:28 holds grandchildren's spouses are not relatives and rereads the Tur. | ||
* בן חורגו is not a relative. Pirush Hamishnayot of the Rambam (Sanhedrin 3:4), Aguda (Sanhedrin 28b), Riaz 3:9, Raavan (Sanhedrin s.v. velu hen hakrovim), Rabbenu Yerucham (Meisharim 2:3), Knesset Hagedola 33:12 quoting Maharshal 80. However, Tur and Bet Yosef 33:5 imply it is a relative.</ref> | |||
# A person may not testify about his wife once they are halachically engaged but he still may testify about her relatives.<ref>Shulchan Aruch CM 33:9. The Sama 33:17 writes that even testifying about one's engaged wife's relatives is only permitted after the fact.</ref> However, a person may even testify about his wife to be without any halachic engagement or marriage. Nonetheless, he might be biased if he is testifying about her receiving money.<ref>Rama CM 33:9</ref> | # A person may not testify about his wife once they are halachically engaged but he still may testify about her relatives.<ref>Shulchan Aruch CM 33:9. The Sama 33:17 writes that even testifying about one's engaged wife's relatives is only permitted after the fact.</ref> However, a person may even testify about his wife to be without any halachic engagement or marriage. Nonetheless, he might be biased if he is testifying about her receiving money.<ref>Rama CM 33:9</ref> | ||
