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# Some say that if an idolater shakes an open bottle, even without picking it up or touching the wine, the contents still become prohibited in benefit, but many disagree.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Yoreh Deah 124:17</ref> Some say that shaking is not the same as stirring, and one should not be stringent in cases of great loss. Only if he picks it up and shakes is it prohibited.<ref>Rama Yoreh Deah 124:17. The Noda BeYehudah (Shu"t Noda BeYehudah Tinyana Yoreh Deah 69, Dagul Mervava Yoreh Deah 124:15, Yad Ephraim Yoreh Deah 124:14) posits this is only true by true idolaters, but for Christians, we can be lenient even if he picks it up and shakes it, as it's no worse than touching it with an object without intention. R' Akiva Eiger (ad loc.) is lenient, as well. Pitchei Teshuvah (Yoreh Deah 124:3) cites the next Teshuvah, in which the Noda BeYehudah argues to be machmir for Rashi if the bottle is full, unless it's vinegar, in which case we can be lenient, since it's already a Safek.</ref> Meanwhile, others are lenient even in that case, because shaking cannot prohibit wine; only stirring can.<ref>Taz Yoreh Deah 124:15. The Nekudot HaKesef 4 argues that he misread the Rashba.</ref> | |||
# Some say that if an idolater shakes an open bottle, even without picking it up or touching the wine, the contents still become prohibited in benefit, but many disagree.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Yoreh Deah 124:17</ref> Some say that shaking is not the same as stirring, and one should not be stringent in cases of great loss. Only if he picks it up and shakes is it prohibited.<ref>Rama Yoreh Deah 124:17. The Noda BeYehudah (Shu"t Noda BeYehudah Tinyana Yoreh Deah 69, Dagul Mervava Yoreh Deah 124:15, Yad Ephraim Yoreh Deah 124:14) posits this is only true by true idolaters, but for Christians, we can be lenient even if he picks it up and shakes it, as it's no worse than touching it with an object without intention.. Pitchei Teshuvah (Yoreh Deah 124:3) cites the next Teshuvah, in which the Noda BeYehudah argues to be machmir for Rashi if the bottle is full, unless it's vinegar, in which case we can be lenient, since it's already a Safek.</ref> Meanwhile, others are lenient even in that case, because shaking cannot prohibit wine; only stirring can.<ref>Taz Yoreh Deah 124:15. The Nekudot HaKesef 4 argues that he misread the Rashba.</ref> | # If he picks it up and pours, even without shaking, that which was poured out is prohibited (the contents are up to debate).<ref>Shulchan Aruch Yoreh Deah 124:18. If he didn't pick it up, it seems like it would be permitted, as per the Beit Yosef ad loc.</ref> | ||
# If he picked it up and put it right back down without shaking or touching the contents, it's permitted. Similarly, just touching the bottle creates no prohibition.<ref>Shulchan Aruch and Rama Yoreh Deah 124:18</ref> | |||
=Further Reading= | =Further Reading= | ||
