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==How to combine them==
==How to combine them==
#Some say that the [[Maror]] should be placed on top of the [[Matzah]]<ref> Moadim U'Zmanim Haggada page 107 because the Gemara says he wraps the [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]], not that he wraps one in the other. </ref>, some say to wrap the [[Matzah]] in [[Maror]]<ref> Rabbeinu Chananel Pesachim 115a, Sefer Hachinuch mitzva 21 </ref>, while some say to place the [[Maror]] between the [[Matzah|Matzot]]. <ref> Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Kitzur S"A 119:7. </ref> All of these methods are valid. <ref> Haggadat Moadim U'Zmanim page 107, Kitzur S”A 119:7, Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Seder Hearuch pg. 527. see Haggadat Moadim Uzmanim pg. 107 for other opinions. The Mishnat Yaakov 475 explains that the reason the custom changed from wrapping the [[Matzah]] in [[Maror]] to putting the [[Maror]] between the [[Matzah|Matzot]] is that people started to use horseradish for [[Maror]] instead of romaine lettuce. </ref>  
#Some say that the [[Maror]] should be placed on top of the [[Matzah]]<ref> Moadim U'Zmanim Haggada page 107 because the Gemara says he wraps the [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]], not that he wraps one in the other. </ref>, some say to wrap the [[Matzah]] in [[Maror]]<ref> Rabbeinu Chananel Pesachim 115a, Sefer Hachinuch mitzva 21 </ref>, while some say to place the [[Maror]] between the [[Matzah|Matzot]]. <ref> Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 119:7. </ref> All of these methods are valid. <ref> Haggadat Moadim U'Zmanim page 107, Kitzur S”A 119:7, Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Seder Hearuch pg. 527. see Haggadat Moadim Uzmanim pg. 107 for other opinions. The Mishnat Yaakov 475 explains that the reason the custom changed from wrapping the [[Matzah]] in [[Maror]] to putting the [[Maror]] between the [[Matzah|Matzot]] is that people started to use horseradish for [[Maror]] instead of romaine lettuce. </ref>  


==How to Eat?==
==How to Eat?==
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==What to Say==
==What to Say==
# Sephardim should say the words “Zecher LeMikdash KeHillel." <Ref>S”A 475:1, Chazon Ovadia [[Pesach]] 5763 pg. 100, Darchei Moshe 475:3 quoting the Maharil. Beiur Halacha 475:1 s.v. VeOmer asks on the source for this practice, and says that perhaps there’s no reason. He also wonders why this is not considered a break, which the Shulchan Aruch says one shouldn't have between the Hamotzi before the first [[Matzah]] eating and the Korech. He gives two potential answers to this. According to the first answer, really the S"A wasn't careful with the order he put it in, and one should really eat and then say it. The second answer is that we should change the language of the S"A and you're not really supposed to say it at all. He leaves both questions unresolved. However, Sh”t Yachava Daat 1:19 and Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41 writes that this is the proper practice. Seder Hearuch pg. 528 and Piskei Teshuvot 475:6 say that even ashkenazim have the minhag to say it against the MB. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik quoted in Harirei Kedem 2:93 explains that really Korech isn't part of the obligations of [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]] but is just an independent expression of remembering the temple and there would then be no problem of a break. He says though, that Rav Chaim Soloveitchik would not interrupt between Motzi [[Matzah]] and the [[Matzah]] of Afikoman in accordance with the ruling of the Shl"a. [http://koltorah.org/ravj/ZecherLemikdashKehillel.htm Rabbi Chaim Jachter] says that Rav Soloveitchik would recite it after eating Korech. </ref> Ashkenazim should say זֵכֶר לְמִקְדָּשׁ כְּהִלֵּל. כֵּן עָשָׂה הִלֵּל בִּזְמַן שבֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הָיָה קַיָים: הָיָה כּוֹרֵךְ מַצָּה וּמָרוֹר וְאוֹכֵל בְּיַחַד <ref>Mishna Brurah 475:21, S"A Harav 475:18.  </ref>
# Sephardim should say the words “Zecher LeMikdash KeHillel." <Ref>S”A 475:1, Chazon Ovadia [[Pesach]] 5763 pg. 100, Darchei Moshe 475:3 quoting the Maharil. Beiur Halacha 475:1 s.v. VeOmer asks on the source for this practice, and says that perhaps there’s no reason. He also wonders why this is not considered a break, which the Shulchan Aruch says one shouldn't have between the Hamotzi before the first [[Matzah]] eating and the Korech. He gives two potential answers to this. According to the first answer, really the Shulchan Aruch wasn't careful with the order he put it in, and one should really eat and then say it. The second answer is that we should change the language of the Shulchan Aruch and you're not really supposed to say it at all. He leaves both questions unresolved. However, Sh”t Yachava Daat 1:19 and Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41 writes that this is the proper practice. Seder Hearuch pg. 528 and Piskei Teshuvot 475:6 say that even ashkenazim have the minhag to say it against the MB. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik quoted in Harirei Kedem 2:93 explains that really Korech isn't part of the obligations of [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]] but is just an independent expression of remembering the temple and there would then be no problem of a break. He says though, that Rav Chaim Soloveitchik would not interrupt between Motzi [[Matzah]] and the [[Matzah]] of Afikoman in accordance with the ruling of the Shl"a. [http://koltorah.org/ravj/ZecherLemikdashKehillel.htm Rabbi Chaim Jachter] says that Rav Soloveitchik would recite it after eating Korech. </ref> Ashkenazim should say זֵכֶר לְמִקְדָּשׁ כְּהִלֵּל. כֵּן עָשָׂה הִלֵּל בִּזְמַן שבֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הָיָה קַיָים: הָיָה כּוֹרֵךְ מַצָּה וּמָרוֹר וְאוֹכֵל בְּיַחַד <ref>Mishna Brurah 475:21, Shulchan Aruch Harav 475:18.  </ref>
==Links==
==Links==
* [http://koltorah.org/ravj/ZecherLemikdashKehillel.htm Zecher Lemikdash Kehillel] by Rabbi Jachter
* [http://koltorah.org/ravj/ZecherLemikdashKehillel.htm Zecher Lemikdash Kehillel] by Rabbi Jachter