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* Knesset Hagedola (Hagahot Hatur 308:2) quotes the Shiltei Giborim 48a who says that a kli shemelachto for isur and heter is like a kli shemelachto lheter. Mishna Brurah 308:20 agrees.
* Knesset Hagedola (Hagahot Hatur 308:2) quotes the Shiltei Giborim 48a who says that a kli shemelachto for isur and heter is like a kli shemelachto lheter. Mishna Brurah 308:20 agrees.
* Pri Megadim M"Z 308 intro learns from the Rashba 123a s.v. ha that a cooking pot is kli shemelachto lisur even though it is sometimes used to store food because it is generally used to cook. Mishna Brurah 308:20 agrees.</ref>
* Pri Megadim M"Z 308 intro learns from the Rashba 123a s.v. ha that a cooking pot is kli shemelachto lisur even though it is sometimes used to store food because it is generally used to cook. Mishna Brurah 308:20 agrees.</ref>
# An item that is primarily used for prohibited activities on Shabbat and is also consistantly used for permitted activities some poskim hold that it is considered a Kli Shemelachto Lheter.<ref>Biur Halacha 308:3, Gedulat Elisha 308:19. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 51 writes that one who is lenient has what to rely on.</ref>
# An item that is primarily used for prohibited activities on Shabbat and is also consistently used for permitted activities some poskim hold that it is considered a Kli Shemelachto Lheter.<ref>Biur Halacha 308:3, Gedulat Elisha 308:19. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 51 writes that one who is lenient has what to rely on.</ref>
# Even if the [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] was used for forbidden Melacha during Ben Hashemashot it’s still considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] and not total [[Muktzeh]]. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 308:11 </ref>
# Even if the [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] was used for forbidden Melacha during Ben Hashemashot it’s still considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] and not total [[Muktzeh]].<Ref>Mishna Brurah 308:11 </ref>
#Some achronim say that a kli shemelachto lisur which was designated to be used for something forbidden on Shabbat and was never used yet is considered a kli shemelachto lheter until it is used once. However, others disagree and consider it a kli shemelachto lisur since it is meant to be used for isur.<ref>Eliya Rabba 279:13 says that designation of a kli shemelachto lisur is meaningless until it was once used and therefore it would be a kli shemelachto lheter. Therefore, he says an unused candle is a kli shemelachto lheter. Pri Megadim E"A 279:14 suggests otherwise since an unused wax candle is designated and certainly going to be used for isur it is currently already a kli shemelachto lisur. Biur Halacha 279 s.v. ner cites this Eliya Rabba. Shevet Halevi 1:56 also follows the Eliya Rabba. Chazon Ovadia (Shabbat v. 3 p. 90) cites the Eliya Rabba in support of his point.</ref>


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