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#Some poskim say that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur, since it is a useable item during the week, while others say that it is [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], as it has no permitted use on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>The Magen Avraham 308:18 writes that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur and not [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. The Mor U’Ketziah (to Magen Avraham 308:18), however, maintains that a candle should be considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], since it doesn’t have any permitted use on [[Shabbat]] at all. Mishna Brurah (308:34 and Shaar HaTziyun 279:4) rules like the Magen Avraham, although he mentions the opinion of the Mor U’Ketziah. | #Some poskim say that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur, since it is a useable item during the week, while others say that it is [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], as it has no permitted use on [[Shabbat]].<ref>The Magen Avraham 308:18 writes that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur and not [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. The Mor U’Ketziah (to Magen Avraham 308:18), however, maintains that a candle should be considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], since it doesn’t have any permitted use on [[Shabbat]] at all. Mishna Brurah (308:34 and Shaar HaTziyun 279:4) rules like the Magen Avraham, although he mentions the opinion of the Mor U’Ketziah. | ||
*Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen ([[Muktzeh]]: A Practical Guide p. 15 n 14) writes that a candle is an item that has the status of a Kli because it is useable during the week. He therefore explains that this dispute really is a fundamental argument about whether a Kil SheMelachto LeIssur that has no other purpose other than one that is forbidden on [[Shabbat]] is considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] or not. See Shalmei Yehuda (p. 14), who questions this explanation. He instead suggests that perhaps a candle was used for permitted purposes other than kindling in the days of the Magen Avraham; alternatively, the Mor U’Ketziah does not consider burning to be a use even during the week. See also Orchot [[Shabbat]] (v. 3, p. 305) who writes that this issue is dependent on a dispute in the Rishonim.</ref> | *Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen ([[Muktzeh]]: A Practical Guide p. 15 n 14) writes that a candle is an item that has the status of a Kli because it is useable during the week. He therefore explains that this dispute really is a fundamental argument about whether a Kil SheMelachto LeIssur that has no other purpose other than one that is forbidden on [[Shabbat]] is considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] or not. See Shalmei Yehuda (p. 14), who questions this explanation. He instead suggests that perhaps a candle was used for permitted purposes other than kindling in the days of the Magen Avraham; alternatively, the Mor U’Ketziah does not consider burning to be a use even during the week. See also Orchot [[Shabbat]] (v. 3, p. 305) who writes that this issue is dependent on a dispute in the Rishonim.</ref> | ||
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##unused candlesticks <ref>Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. </ref> | ##unused candlesticks <ref>Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. </ref> | ||
##unused matches <ref>Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 74) quotes Rav Elyashiv who consider matches to be [[Muktzeh]] machmat gufo, while Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:13, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) in name of [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]], and Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (quoted by Shalmei Yehuda pg 74) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:101) brings both opinions and doesn’t give a final ruling. [Rav Moshe (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is strict since a match doesn’t have a permitted function nor is it a kli (since it’s only used one time), while Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is lenient since he holds there’s a permitted use i.e. picking one’s ear.] </ref> | ##unused matches <ref>Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 74) quotes Rav Elyashiv who consider matches to be [[Muktzeh]] machmat gufo, while Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:13, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) in name of [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]], and Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (quoted by Shalmei Yehuda pg 74) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:101) brings both opinions and doesn’t give a final ruling. [Rav Moshe (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is strict since a match doesn’t have a permitted function nor is it a kli (since it’s only used one time), while Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is lenient since he holds there’s a permitted use i.e. picking one’s ear.] </ref> | ||
#One may be lenient for this category if there’s an extenuating circumstance. <ref>Shalmei Yehuda (pg 19) in name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 2:32, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 8:67, Zachor VeShamor 41:4 </ref> | #One may be lenient for this category if there’s an extenuating circumstance.<ref>Shalmei Yehuda (pg 19) in name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 2:32, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 8:67, Zachor VeShamor 41:4 </ref> | ||
# One can not carry a candle by placing something permitted on it.<ref>Rosh Shabbat 21:2 writes that people who carry a candle by placing something permitted on top of it are mistaken. Shulchan Aruch 279:3 codifies the Rosh. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 59 cites the Rabbenu Yerucham 67b and Meiri Beitzah 21b who agree. Taz 311:5 is bothered by this Rosh because of the Rosh responsa 22:8:4 and suggests an answer. Gra 308:24 isn’t bothered at all. See Rabbi Akiva Eiger 305:7 who thinks some would permit this.</ref> | # One can not carry a candle by placing something permitted on it.<ref>Rosh Shabbat 21:2 writes that people who carry a candle by placing something permitted on top of it are mistaken. Shulchan Aruch 279:3 codifies the Rosh. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 59 cites the Rabbenu Yerucham 67b and Meiri Beitzah 21b who agree. Taz 311:5 is bothered by this Rosh because of the Rosh responsa 22:8:4 and suggests an answer. Gra 308:24 isn’t bothered at all. See Rabbi Akiva Eiger 305:7 who thinks some would permit this.</ref> | ||
