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# According to the [[Rif]], this rule only applies with Rabbi Yochanan only disputes Rav's position, but if he's disputing both Rav and Shmuel, then the Halacha follows Rav and Shmuel, whereas the [[Rosh]] rules that the rule is true in any case.<ref>Korban Netanel (Klalim 15), Yad Malachi (Klalei HaTalmud 556)</ref>
# According to the [[Rif]], this rule only applies with Rabbi Yochanan only disputes Rav's position, but if he's disputing both Rav and Shmuel, then the Halacha follows Rav and Shmuel, whereas the [[Rosh]] rules that the rule is true in any case.<ref>Korban Netanel (Klalim 15), Yad Malachi (Klalei HaTalmud 556)</ref>


==== Rav Yochanan and Other Amoraim ====
# Rav Yochanan vs. R' Yose bar Chanina is a Machaloket, the [[Rosh]]<ref>Rosh Bava Kamma 4:4. The Yad Malachi (Klalei HaTalmud 570) discusses the contradiction in the Rosh: in Bava Kamma he considers R' Yose bar Chanina to be Rav Yochanan's student, while elsewhere he considers R' Yose bar Chanina to be older than Rav Yochanan. Some suggest there were two R' Yose bar Chanina's, but he's not convinced. See Maharitz Chayut Bava Kamma 39a.</ref> and many others claim one should follow Rav Yochanan, as he was the latter's rebbe, while the [[Rambam]]<ref>Rambam (Hilchot Nizkei Mammon 6:3)</ref> follows R' Yose bar Chanina, because he was "lan be'umka dedina" (very deeply engrossed in Din).<ref>Bava Kamma 39a</ref>
==== Double Machaloket ====
==== Double Machaloket ====
# When Rav Yochanan and Resh Lakish dispute Rami Bar Chammah and Rav Yirmiyah, the Halacha follows the former group.<ref>Yad Malachi (Klalei HaTalmud 301)</ref>
# When Rav Yochanan and Resh Lakish dispute Rami Bar Chammah and Rav Yirmiyah, the Halacha follows the former group.<ref>Yad Malachi (Klalei HaTalmud 301)</ref>