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# If one forgot to say Kiddish on Friday night and only remembered during Ben HaShemashot of Saturday, one should say Kiddish then without Shem UMalchut. <ref> Ben Ish Chai Beresheet 19 writes that one could argue that since according to the Magan Avraham, once one prayed on Shabbat the obligation of Kiddish is only Derabbanan and in a case of doubt such as Ben HaShemashot, we should apply the rule of Safek Derabbanan Lekula. However, the Ben Ish Chai rejects such an argument because there are those who limit the Magan Avraham to a case when one doesn't have wine or one had Kavana to fulfill one's obligation. </ref> | # If one forgot to say Kiddish on Friday night and only remembered during Ben HaShemashot of Saturday, one should say Kiddish then without Shem UMalchut. <ref> Ben Ish Chai Beresheet 19 writes that one could argue that since according to the Magan Avraham, once one prayed on Shabbat the obligation of Kiddish is only Derabbanan and in a case of doubt such as Ben HaShemashot, we should apply the rule of Safek Derabbanan Lekula. However, the Ben Ish Chai rejects such an argument because there are those who limit the Magan Avraham to a case when one doesn't have wine or one had Kavana to fulfill one's obligation. </ref> | ||
# If one forgot to say Kiddish on Friday night and only remembered during Ben HaShemashot of Saturday, and one didn't pray any prayer of Shabbat, one should make Kiddish with a Bracha. <ref> Ben Ish Chai Beresheet 19 writes that since Kiddish is Deorittah and if one didn't pray any Shabbat prayer one is still obligated in Kiddish and so one can still make Kiddish during Ben HaShemashot with a Bracha because of the rule Safek Deorittah LeChumra just like if there's a doubt concerning Birkat HaMazon. </ref> | # If one forgot to say Kiddish on Friday night and only remembered during Ben HaShemashot of Saturday, and one didn't pray any prayer of Shabbat, one should make Kiddish with a Bracha. <ref> Ben Ish Chai Beresheet 19 writes that since Kiddish is Deorittah and if one didn't pray any Shabbat prayer one is still obligated in Kiddish and so one can still make Kiddish during Ben HaShemashot with a Bracha because of the rule Safek Deorittah LeChumra just like if there's a doubt concerning Birkat HaMazon. </ref> | ||
==Washing before making Kiddish== | |||
# One should make Kiddish before washing for bread. However if one did wash before making Kiddish, one should make Kiddish on bread and not on wine. On the other hand, some Ashkenazim have the Minhag to specifically wash before making Kiddish over wine. <ref> Tur 271:12 in name of Rav Amram Goan (Siddur vol 2, Siman 17) writes that one should make Kiddish on wine and then wash for bread, however if one washed first one should make Kiddish on bread in accordance with Rav Bruna in Pesachim 106b. Rambam (Hilchot Shabbat 29:9-10) and the Ran's explanation of the Rif (22a) concur. Such was the minhag of the Maharam MeRotenburg (quoted in Tur 271:12) and so rules the S"A 271:12. Gra and Maamer Mordechai concur. However, the Rashbam explains the gemara differently and says that lechatchila one should make Kiddish first, however if one doesn't one can still make Kiddish on wine. Rabbenu Tam and the Ri say that even Lechatchila one should wash before making Kiddish on wine. Such was the minhag of the Rosh (quoted by Tur 271:12) and the minhag of Ashkenaz as writes the Rama 271:12. The Taz and Chaye Adam rule that the Rama is only bedieved. Therefore, Mishna Brurah 271:62 writes that since many achronim side with Shulchan Aruch and one satisfies all opinions one should make Kiddish first, however Bedieved one can rely on the Rama to make Kiddish on wine if one did in fact wash first. </ref> | |||
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