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# One may not use soda for [[Kiddish]] because soda isn't considered Chamar Medina.<ref>Sh"t Igrot Moshe 2:75 rules that soda is just like water and can not be used for [[Kiddish]].</ref> | # One may not use soda for [[Kiddish]] because soda isn't considered Chamar Medina.<ref>Sh"t Igrot Moshe 2:75 rules that soda is just like water and can not be used for [[Kiddish]].</ref> | ||
==Mistakes in Kiddush of Yom Tov== | |||
# In Kiddush of Yom Tov if someone said Mikadesh Yisrael and didn’t add Ve’hazmanim he didn’t fulfill his obligation.<ref> The Gemara Pesachim 117b has a dispute between the elders of Pumpedita and Rava in tefillah whether you should say Mikadesh Yisrael or Mikadesh Yisrael Vehazmanim on Yom Tov. In Kiddush everyone agrees that you should recite Mikadesh Yisrael Vehazmanim. Magen Avraham 487:1 writes that if in Kiddush someone only say Mikadesh Yisrael he didn’t fulfill his obligation. Kaf Hachaim 487:17 and Zichron Yonah Avodat Halevim 30:1 agree.</ref> | |||
# In Kiddush of Yom Tov if someone said Mikadesh Hashabbat instead of Mikadesh Yisrael Ve’hazmanim he didn’t fulfill his obligation unless he fixed it within toch kdei dibbur.<ref>Regarding Tefillah, Shulchan Aruch 487:1 and Mishna Brurah 487:5 hold that the Shabbat conclusion doesn’t fulfill the obligation of the Yom Tov one. Mishna Brurah holds that it can be fixed within a toch kdei dibbur. Magen Avraham 487:2 implies that the same is true of kiddush. Zichron Yonah 30:2 writes so explicitly.</ref> | |||
# If someone said the Yom Tov Kiddush for the main text of the bracha which mentions Yom Tov in the middle and then concluded with Mikadesh Hashabbat one doesn’t fulfill his obligation.<ref>Regarding Tefillah, the Magen Avraham 487:2 writes that mentioning Yom Tov in the middle is sufficient even with a wrong conclusion but he seems to retract that opinion. Mishna Brurah 487:4 concludes that one doesn’t fulfill one’s obligation. Zichron Yonah 30:2 applies this to Kiddush.</ref> | |||
# If you forgot to say Shehechiyanu you can say it afterwards anytime during the Yom Tov, for Pesach and Sukkot until the end of the 7 days.<ref>Eruvin 40b, Mishna Brurah 473:1, Zichron Yonah 30:4</ref> | |||
# In Kiddush of Yom Tov that fell out on Shabbat includes both Shabbat and Yom Tov. If one only said the kiddush of Shabbat or Yom Tov one doesn’t fulfill one’s obligation.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 487:1 writes that if one said Shabbat kiddush on Yom Tov one doesn’t fulfill one’s obligation. Zichron Yonah 30:6 writes that if on Shabbat Yom Tov one said either the Shabbat or Yom Tov kiddush separately and not both one didn’t fulfill one’s obligation. Rivevot Efraim 4:117 agrees.</ref> | |||
# If one said the middle of the kiddush correctly and in the conclusion he made a mistake and only mentioned Shabbat according to many poskim one fulfilled one’s obligation. If one said the middle of the kiddush correctly and in the conclusion he made a mistake and only mentioned Yom Tov according to many Ashkenazic poskim one didn’t fulfill one’s obligation but according to Sephardim one did fulfill one’s obligation.<ref>Regarding Tefillah there is a dispute between the Knesset Hagedola who holds that concluding with one of the two conclusions is sufficient and the Pri Chadash who disagrees. Biur Halacha 487:1 makes a compromise and says that if he mentioned Shabbat that is sufficient but if he only mentioned Yom Tov that is insufficient. Kaf Hachaim 487:20 holds that in all cases out of doubt he shouldn’t repeat the bracha. Zichron Yonah 30:7 applies this discussion to Kiddush.</ref> | |||
# If one mentioned Yom Tov in Kiddush but not the specific one there’s a dispute if one fulfilled one’s obligation.<ref>Leket Shichacha Vtaut p. 397 writes that the Bet Yehuda 4 holds that one fulfills one's obligation if one mentioned Yom Tov but just didn't mention which Yom Tov it was, but the Mishna Brurah 427:11 holds that one doesn't fulfill one's obligation. Shemirat Shabbat Khilchata v. 2 p. 110 holds like the Mishna Brurah.</ref> | |||
==Questions and Answers== | ==Questions and Answers== | ||
# Is it permissible to have [[Kiddish]] before [[Mussaf]]? [[Kiddush#eatingbeforemussaf|click here]] | # Is it permissible to have [[Kiddish]] before [[Mussaf]]? [[Kiddush#eatingbeforemussaf|click here]] | ||
