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*What is the minimum amount of wine one should drink for Kiddish? S"A 271:13 writes that for kiddush one must drink a Melo Lugmav, which is a cheekful and is the equivalent of the majority of a [[Reviyit]]. Kaf HaChaim 271:83 and Or Letzion (vol 2, 20:22) write that it's preferable to drink a complete Reviyit. On the other hand, Biur Halacha 174:6 D"H VeChen writes that since there's a dispute whether the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the Bracha Achrona of the wine, one should preferably drink only a Melo Lugmav and not a Reviyit. Then he ends off by referencing the Shulchan Aruch's ruling in 190:3 and says that one should have intent that the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the wine before the meal. Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 1, p 274) simply writes that one must drink a Melo Lugav and doesn't say it's preferable to drink a Reviyit. | *What is the minimum amount of wine one should drink for Kiddish? S"A 271:13 writes that for kiddush one must drink a Melo Lugmav, which is a cheekful and is the equivalent of the majority of a [[Reviyit]]. Kaf HaChaim 271:83 and Or Letzion (vol 2, 20:22) write that it's preferable to drink a complete Reviyit. On the other hand, Biur Halacha 174:6 D"H VeChen writes that since there's a dispute whether the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the Bracha Achrona of the wine, one should preferably drink only a Melo Lugmav and not a Reviyit. Then he ends off by referencing the Shulchan Aruch's ruling in 190:3 and says that one should have intent that the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the wine before the meal. Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 1, p 274) simply writes that one must drink a Melo Lugav and doesn't say it's preferable to drink a Reviyit. | ||
* [See also S"A 190:3 who writes that because there is a dispute whether one is obligated to make a Bracha Achrona for a [[Kezayit]] or a Reviyit of wine, one shouldn't enter into that dispute and for a Kos Shel Bracha, when one needs to drink more than a Melo Lugmav, one's only option is to drink more than a Reviyit. Kaf HaChaim 271:84 quotes the Pri Megadim who explains that this doesn't apply to Kiddush before a meal since the [[Birkat HaMazon]] exempts the wine from a Bracha Achrona.] | * [See also S"A 190:3 who writes that because there is a dispute whether one is obligated to make a Bracha Achrona for a [[Kezayit]] or a Reviyit of wine, one shouldn't enter into that dispute and for a Kos Shel Bracha, when one needs to drink more than a Melo Lugmav, one's only option is to drink more than a Reviyit. Kaf HaChaim 271:84 quotes the Pri Megadim who explains that this doesn't apply to Kiddush before a meal since the [[Birkat HaMazon]] exempts the wine from a Bracha Achrona.] | ||
* Mishna Brurah 272:30 rules that the obligation to have most of a [[Reviyit]] applies regardless of which drink you use for kiddush. Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank in Har Tzvi 1:159, however, says that since the Taz (210:1) holds that one would be obligated to say a beracha acharona on less than a [[Reviyit]] of liquor because less than that already is considered to be significant enough for a beracha acharona, the same would apply for how much you need to drink for kiddish. In regards to Bracha Achrona, Mishna Berura 190:14 based on the Magen Avraham 190 also writes that there's no difference between wine and other drinks in opposition to the Taz's opinion in that regard as well. </ref> For Kiddish, the [[Reviyit]] should be considered to be 4.4oz. <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Reviyit]] for kiddush on Shabbat (using the method of measuring finger-widths) should be 4.42 oz.</ref> | * Mishna Brurah 272:30 rules that the obligation to have most of a [[Reviyit]] applies regardless of which drink you use for kiddush. Rav Tzvi [[Pesach]] Frank in Har Tzvi 1:159, however, says that since the Taz (210:1) holds that one would be obligated to say a beracha acharona on less than a [[Reviyit]] of liquor because less than that already is considered to be significant enough for a beracha acharona, the same would apply for how much you need to drink for kiddish. In regards to Bracha Achrona, Mishna Berura 190:14 based on the Magen Avraham 190 also writes that there's no difference between wine and other drinks in opposition to the Taz's opinion in that regard as well. </ref> For Kiddish, the [[Reviyit]] should be considered to be 4.4oz. <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Reviyit]] for kiddush on Shabbat (using the method of measuring finger-widths) should be 4.42 oz.</ref> | ||
==Kiddish in Shul== | ==Kiddish in Shul== | ||
# In the days of the gemara, the Rabbis instituted a Kiddish in shul for the travelers who would eat and drink in the Shul. Even though nowadays this isn't the case, some hold that the practice remains, while others say that it's preferable not to make Kiddish in Shul. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 269:1 writes that it's preferable not to follow this minhag. However, Mishna Brurah 269:5 writes that this is the common minhag and one shouldn't uproot it. </ref> | # In the days of the gemara, the Rabbis instituted a Kiddish in shul for the travelers who would eat and drink in the Shul. Even though nowadays this isn't the case, some hold that the practice remains, while others say that it's preferable not to make Kiddish in Shul. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 269:1 writes that it's preferable not to follow this minhag. However, Mishna Brurah 269:5 writes that this is the common minhag and one shouldn't uproot it. </ref> | ||
# This minhag applies to [[Shabbat]] and [[Yom Tov]] execpt for the first day of [[Yom Tov]] of Pesach (and second in Chutz LaAretz). <ref>Mishna Brurah 269:5, BeYitchak Yikra adds second day in chutz learetz </ref> | # This minhag applies to [[Shabbat]] and [[Yom Tov]] execpt for the first day of [[Yom Tov]] of [[Pesach]] (and second in Chutz LaAretz). <ref>Mishna Brurah 269:5, BeYitchak Yikra adds second day in chutz learetz </ref> | ||
# The one making Kiddish in shul shouldn't drink from the wine but rather give it to children to drink. Some say that the children should be below the age of chinuch (6 or 7) while others say that it's better to give it a child above that age. If one doesn't have children there to give the wine the one making Kiddish should drink a reviyit, make a bracha achrona and have intent to fulfill the mitzvah of kiddish. <ref>Mishna Brurah 269:1 </ref> | # The one making Kiddish in shul shouldn't drink from the wine but rather give it to children to drink. Some say that the children should be below the age of chinuch (6 or 7) while others say that it's better to give it a child above that age. If one doesn't have children there to give the wine the one making Kiddish should drink a reviyit, make a bracha achrona and have intent to fulfill the mitzvah of kiddish. <ref>Mishna Brurah 269:1 </ref> | ||
# The minhag is to stand for this kiddish. <ref> Rama 269:1 </ref> | # The minhag is to stand for this kiddish. <ref> Rama 269:1 </ref> | ||
