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#Someone who is sick and needs to eat before davening on Shabbat, according to Ashkenazim should recite Kiddush beforehand unless one doesn't eat a kezayit of mezonot within a kdei achilat pras,<ref>Mishna Brurah (Biur Halacha 289:1 s.v. chovat) and Igrot Moshe OC 2:26:2 write that someone who is sick and needs to eat before davening on Shabbat should make kiddush unless he doesn't need to eat pat haba bekisnin. Piskei Teshuvot 289:8 note 63 writes that the best option is for the sick person not to have a kezayit of pat haba bekisnin within a kedi achilat pras which wouldn't obligate kiddush.</ref> while according to Sephardim it isn't necessary.<ref>Yabia Omer OC 8:31 and Or Letzion 2:20:14 write that someone who is sick and needs to eat before davening on Shabbat does not need to make kiddush. See also Kaf Hachaim 276:28 who is lenient in extenuating circumstances. See Chazon Ovadia (Shabbat v. 2 p. 149) where Rav Ovadia recommends that a sick person who needs to eat bread or pat haba bekisnin before davening should recite kiddush.</ref> | #Someone who is sick and needs to eat before davening on Shabbat, according to Ashkenazim should recite Kiddush beforehand unless one doesn't eat a kezayit of mezonot within a kdei achilat pras,<ref>Mishna Brurah (Biur Halacha 289:1 s.v. chovat) and Igrot Moshe OC 2:26:2 write that someone who is sick and needs to eat before davening on Shabbat should make kiddush unless he doesn't need to eat pat haba bekisnin. Piskei Teshuvot 289:8 note 63 writes that the best option is for the sick person not to have a kezayit of pat haba bekisnin within a kedi achilat pras which wouldn't obligate kiddush.</ref> while according to Sephardim it isn't necessary.<ref>Yabia Omer OC 8:31 and Or Letzion 2:20:14 write that someone who is sick and needs to eat before davening on Shabbat does not need to make kiddush. See also Kaf Hachaim 276:28 who is lenient in extenuating circumstances. See Chazon Ovadia (Shabbat v. 2 p. 149) where Rav Ovadia recommends that a sick person who needs to eat bread or pat haba bekisnin before davening should recite kiddush.</ref> | ||
#If someone needs to eat after Shacharit before Mussaf he should make Kiddish. If he doesn't have wine or another drink to make Kiddish upon, he still may eat fruit or pat haba bkisnin.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 52:15</ref> | #If someone needs to eat after Shacharit before Mussaf he should make Kiddish. If he doesn't have wine or another drink to make Kiddish upon, he still may eat fruit or pat haba bkisnin.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 52:15</ref> | ||
=== Children === | |||
#It is permitted for children to eat before Kiddish before by night and day. This applies even if he reached the age of chinuch.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 52:18 is lenient since when eating before Kiddish the food itself isn't forbidden. It is just a forbidden time and since the child needs the food it is permitted.</ref> | |||
=== Women === | |||
#A woman who usually davens Shacharit before eating should also do so on Shabbat. She may drink just like men.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 52:13</ref> | |||
#If she's sick and needs to eat before davening she does not have to recite Kiddish. However, if she usually does not daven Shacharit at all or she davens after she eats because she relies on reciting the opinion that she only has to recite some request from Hashem to fulfill the mitzvah of davening, she should recite Kiddish before eating.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 52:13</ref> In an extenuating circumstance when she's weak doesn't have wine she may eat without Kiddish.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 52:13 quoting Minchat Yitzchak 4:28:3 who includes a factor of relying on Maharam Chalavah that women are not obligated in Kiddish during the day.</ref> | |||
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