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#In the days of the gemara, the Rabbis instituted saying [[Kiddish]] in shul for the travelers who would eat and drink in the Shul. Nowadays, when guests don't eat their meals in shul, some say that its proper not to say Kiddush in shul, while others uphold this minhag to say Kiddush in shul on Friday night.<ref>The Gemara Pesachim 100b discusses the custom to recite kiddush on Friday night in shul. The Tur 269 writes that saying Kiddush in shul was only established in order to fulfill the obligation of Kiddush for the guests who would eat their meal in shul. He says that nowadays that guests don't eat their meal in shul one shouldn't say Kiddush in shul. The Beit Yosef 269 quotes the Rabbenu Yonah, Ran, and Rashba who defend this practice of saying Kiddush in shul even if guests don't even their meal in shul. Additionally, the Rambam (Sh"t Harambam 37) writes that this minhag shouldn't be discontinued because all establishments that the rabbis made must remain even if the reason no longer applies. Rashba responsa 1:37 and Maharam Chalavah Pesachim 101a agree. Nonetheless, the Bet Yosef writes that the more proper minhag is not to say Kiddush in Shul. Shulchan Aruch 269:1 rules that some have this practice to say Kiddush in shul, but its better not to. Mishna Brurah 269:5 writes that the common minhag is to say Kiddush in shul and one shouldn't uproot it. Yalkut Yosef 269:2 writes that if there are some in shul who will not say Kiddush at their homes at all, it is not just justified but even encouraged to say Kiddush in shul, but otherwise a shul who doesn't yet have that and doesn't yet have an established minhag, shouldn't say the kiddush in shul. He continues that whatever shul already | #In the days of the gemara, the Rabbis instituted saying [[Kiddish]] in shul for the travelers who would eat and drink in the Shul. Nowadays, when guests don't eat their meals in shul, some say that its proper not to say Kiddush in shul, while others uphold this minhag to say Kiddush in shul on Friday night.<ref>The Gemara Pesachim 100b discusses the custom to recite kiddush on Friday night in shul. The Tur 269 writes that saying Kiddush in shul was only established in order to fulfill the obligation of Kiddush for the guests who would eat their meal in shul. He says that nowadays that guests don't eat their meal in shul one shouldn't say Kiddush in shul. The Beit Yosef 269 quotes the Rabbenu Yonah, Ran, and Rashba who defend this practice of saying Kiddush in shul even if guests don't even their meal in shul. Additionally, the Rambam (Sh"t Harambam 37) writes that this minhag shouldn't be discontinued because all establishments that the rabbis made must remain even if the reason no longer applies. Rashba responsa 1:37 and Maharam Chalavah Pesachim 101a agree. Nonetheless, the Bet Yosef writes that the more proper minhag is not to say Kiddush in Shul. Shulchan Aruch 269:1 rules that some have this practice to say Kiddush in shul, but its better not to. Mishna Brurah 269:5 writes that the common minhag is to say Kiddush in shul and one shouldn't uproot it. Yalkut Yosef 269:2 writes that if there are some in shul who will not say Kiddush at their homes at all, it is not just justified but even encouraged to say Kiddush in shul, but otherwise a shul who doesn't yet have that and doesn't yet have an established minhag, shouldn't say the kiddush in shul. He continues that whatever shul already has the minhag to say it, they should not be stopped because this minhag has its basis. | ||
*Sh"t Yachin Uboaz 118 writes that that the Rashbetz wouldn't answer [[amen]] to the kiddush in shul because of the safek beracha livatala. | *Sh"t Yachin Uboaz 118 writes that that the Rashbetz wouldn't answer [[amen]] to the kiddush in shul because of the safek beracha livatala. | ||
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#This minhag applies to [[Shabbat]] and [[Yom Tov]] except for the first day of [[Yom Tov]] of [[Pesach]] (and second in Chutz LaAretz).<ref>Mishna Brurah 269:5, BeYitchak Yikare adds second day in chutz la'aretz </ref> | #This minhag applies to [[Shabbat]] and [[Yom Tov]] except for the first day of [[Yom Tov]] of [[Pesach]] (and second in Chutz LaAretz).<ref>Mishna Brurah 269:5, BeYitchak Yikare adds second day in chutz la'aretz </ref> | ||
#The one making [[Kiddish]] in shul shouldn't drink from the wine but rather give it to children to drink. Some say that the children should be below the age of [[chinuch]] (6 or 7) while others say that it's better to give it a child above that age. If it is not possible to find a child to drink the wine, an adult should drink it but should make sure to drink a [[Reviyit]] or more, say a [[Bracha Achrona]], and have intent to fulfill the mitzvah of [[kiddish]].<ref>Shulchan Aruch 269, Mishna Brurah 269:1, Yalkut Yosef 269:2. The Magen Avraham 269:1 explains that it is permitted to have the child drink the kiddush wine even though his meal isn't there and it is like eating before kiddush. He explains it is permitted for a child to eat before kiddush for several reasons: 1) Since eating before kiddush is a prohibition implied from a mitzvah it isn't an issue of feeding something forbidden to children. (Yalkut Mefarshim on Ran Yoma 3a agrees.) 2) Since the prohibition is only related to time and not intrinsic to the food it is permitted to feed to children. (Meor Yisrael | #The one making [[Kiddish]] in shul shouldn't drink from the wine but rather give it to children to drink. Some say that the children should be below the age of [[chinuch]] (6 or 7), while others say that it's better to give it a child above that age. If it is not possible to find a child to drink the wine, an adult should drink it but should make sure to drink a [[Reviyit]] or more, say a [[Bracha Achrona]], and have intent to fulfill the mitzvah of [[kiddish]]. Then he can still recite Kiddish at home for his family members.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 269:1, Magen Avraham 269:1, Mishna Brurah 269:1, Yalkut Yosef 269:2. The Magen Avraham 269:1 explains that it is permitted to have the child drink the kiddush wine even though his meal isn't there and it is like eating before kiddush. He explains it is permitted for a child to eat before kiddush for several reasons: 1) Since eating before kiddush is a prohibition implied from a mitzvah it isn't an issue of feeding something forbidden to children. (Yalkut Mefarshim on Ran Yoma 3a agrees.) 2) Since the prohibition is only related to time and not intrinsic to the food it is permitted to feed to children. (Meor Yisrael Yoma 78b agrees.) 3) According to the Geonim it is permitted to just have the cup of kiddush without the meal there and for children that is sufficient to rely upon. 4) According to the Rashba and Ran it is permitted to feed a child a rabbinic prohibition (see Bet Yosef O.C. 343:1). Ritva Eruvin 40b clearly requires that the children have reached the age of chinuch, otherwise it is a bracha levatala.</ref> Some say it is sufficient that the children rink a little bit and it isn't necessary that they drink a Reviyit.<ref> Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 2 p. 1</ref> | ||
#The minhag is to stand for [[kiddish]] in shul.<ref>Rama 269:1 </ref> | #The minhag is to stand for [[kiddish]] in shul.<ref>Rama 269:1 </ref> It is a segulah that one's knees don't feel tired.<ref>Mishna Brurah 269:6</ref> | ||
==Kiddish at night== | ==Kiddish at night== | ||
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#Ideally, one should say Kiddush as soon as one gets home from Shul on Friday night.<ref>Pesachim 106a learns that the primary way to do [[Kiddish]], a remembrance of [[Shabbat]] is with wine on Friday night because that's the beginning of the day (in the Jewish calendar). Shulchan Aruch, O”C 271:1 </ref> | #Ideally, one should say Kiddush as soon as one gets home from Shul on Friday night.<ref>Pesachim 106a learns that the primary way to do [[Kiddish]], a remembrance of [[Shabbat]] is with wine on Friday night because that's the beginning of the day (in the Jewish calendar). Shulchan Aruch, O”C 271:1 </ref> | ||
#One can say [[Kiddish]] before nightfall if one accepts upon oneself [[Shabbat]] early.<ref>Magen Avraham writes that [[Kiddish]] can be made during the day if one accepts upon oneself [[Shabbat]] early. Many achronim including Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 77:2 and Mishna Brurah 271:11 concur. </ref> If one needs to make Kiddush for someone else before Shabbat and one can't accept Shabbat then, some poskim allow making Kiddush then.<ref>Minchat Shlomo 1:3 allowed it non-regularly. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=74381 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Shemot 5779 min 43)] and Tzitz Eliezer 14:25 allowed it. They cite Rabbi Akiva Eiger who was unsure about this.</ref> See further on the [[Yatzah Motzei]] page. | #One can say [[Kiddish]] before nightfall if one accepts upon oneself [[Shabbat]] early.<ref>Magen Avraham writes that [[Kiddish]] can be made during the day if one accepts upon oneself [[Shabbat]] early. Many achronim including Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 77:2 and Mishna Brurah 271:11 concur. </ref> If one needs to make Kiddush for someone else before Shabbat and one can't accept Shabbat then, some poskim allow making Kiddush then.<ref>Minchat Shlomo 1:3 allowed it non-regularly. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=74381 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Shemot 5779 min 43)] and Tzitz Eliezer 14:25 allowed it. They cite Rabbi Akiva Eiger who was unsure about this.</ref> See further on the [[Yatzah Motzei]] page. | ||
#If one missed Kiddush on Friday night, it can and should be made up at any point during [[Shabbat]] day, which means that one would recite the longer Friday-night version of Kiddush on [[Shabbat]] day.<ref>The Gemara Pesachim 105a rules that if one missed saying [[Kiddish]] on Friday night one can make it up through the rest of [[Shabbat]]. Rambam (Hilchot [[Shabbat]] 29:4), Tur and Shulchan Aruch 271:8 rule like the gemara pesachim. This is agree upon by the achronim including Aruch HaShulchan 271:21, Ben Ish Hai (Bereshit 19), and Hacham Ovadia Yosef, in Halichot Olam. Aruch HaShulchan and Ben Ish Chai write that even if the person ate intentionally one should still make [[Kiddish]] the next day. | #If one missed Kiddush on Friday night, it can and should be made up at any point during [[Shabbat]] day, which means that one would recite the longer Friday-night version of Kiddush on [[Shabbat]] day.<ref>The Gemara Pesachim 105a rules that if one missed saying [[Kiddish]] on Friday night one can make it up through the rest of [[Shabbat]]. Rambam (Hilchot [[Shabbat]] 29:4), Tur and Shulchan Aruch 271:8 rule like the gemara pesachim. This is agree upon by the achronim including Aruch HaShulchan 271:21, Ben Ish Hai (Bereshit 19), and Hacham Ovadia Yosef, in Halichot Olam. Aruch HaShulchan and Ben Ish Chai write that even if the person ate intentionally one should still make [[Kiddish]] the next day.</ref> Vayichulu is omitted when recited during the day.<ref>Orchot Chayim (Kiddush n. 3), Rama O.C. 271:8, Misna Brurah 271:40, Chaye Adam ([[Shabbat]] 6:2), Aruch HaShulchan 271:21, and Ben Ish Chai (Beresheet 19) hold that we don't say Vayichulu if the [[Kiddish]] is said during the day since Vayichulu was instituted for the incoming of [[Shabbat]]. [This finds it's source in the Magid Mishna (Hilchot [[Shabbat]] 29:4).] </ref> | ||
#If one forgot to say [[Kiddish]] on Friday night and only remembered during [[Bein HaShemashot]] of Saturday, one should say [[Kiddish]] then with [[Shem UMalchut]], however, according to Ashkenazim as long as one davened any of the [[Shabbat]] [[prayers]], if one needs to make Kiddush during [[Bein HaShemashot]] it should be done without Shem Umalchut.<ref>Ben Ish Chai Beresheet 19 writes that one could argue that according to the Magen Avraham, once one prayed on [[Shabbat]] the obligation of [[Kiddish]] is only Derabbanan and whenever there is a doubt about a Derabbanan obligation one may be lenient (Safek Derabbanan Lekula). If this was the case, one should say that if it is [[Bein HaShemashot]] one no longer needs to say Kiddush. However, the Ben Ish Chai rejects such an argument because some commentators limit the Magen Avraham to a case where one doesn't have wine or one specifically had Kavana in [[davening]] to fulfill one's obligation. Therefore, the Ben Ish Chai rules that one can still make [[Kiddish]] during [[Bein HaShemashot]] with a Bracha because of the rule Safek Deorittah LeChumra just like if there's a doubt concerning [[Birkat HaMazon]]. Halichot Olam (vol 3, pg 25-7) agrees. However, the Mishna Brurah 271:39 (Shaar Hatziyun 47) rules that if one did say Tefillot [[Shabbat]] and it's [[Bein HaShemashot]], one should make the bracha without [[Shem UMalchut]]. See [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipID=1866 Rabbi Mansour on Dailyhalacha.com]. </ref> | #If one forgot to say [[Kiddish]] on Friday night and only remembered during [[Bein HaShemashot]] of Saturday, one should say [[Kiddish]] then with [[Shem UMalchut]], however, according to Ashkenazim as long as one davened any of the [[Shabbat]] [[prayers]], if one needs to make Kiddush during [[Bein HaShemashot]] it should be done without Shem Umalchut.<ref>Ben Ish Chai Beresheet 19 writes that one could argue that according to the Magen Avraham, once one prayed on [[Shabbat]] the obligation of [[Kiddish]] is only Derabbanan and whenever there is a doubt about a Derabbanan obligation one may be lenient (Safek Derabbanan Lekula). If this was the case, one should say that if it is [[Bein HaShemashot]] one no longer needs to say Kiddush. However, the Ben Ish Chai rejects such an argument because some commentators limit the Magen Avraham to a case where one doesn't have wine or one specifically had Kavana in [[davening]] to fulfill one's obligation. Therefore, the Ben Ish Chai rules that one can still make [[Kiddish]] during [[Bein HaShemashot]] with a Bracha because of the rule Safek Deorittah LeChumra just like if there's a doubt concerning [[Birkat HaMazon]]. Halichot Olam (vol 3, pg 25-7) agrees. However, the Mishna Brurah 271:39 (Shaar Hatziyun 47) rules that if one did say Tefillot [[Shabbat]] and it's [[Bein HaShemashot]], one should make the bracha without [[Shem UMalchut]]. See [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipID=1866 Rabbi Mansour on Dailyhalacha.com]. </ref> | ||
