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# Those who are listening to the kiddush shouldn't drink until the making the kiddush drinks.<ref>Gemara Brachot 47a</ref> However, if they each have their own cup they may drink without waiting.<ref>Yerushalmi, Tosfot Brachot 47a, Tosfot Pesachim 106a s.v. gachin, Maharam Chalavah Pesachim 106a s.v. chazyey, Shulchan Aruch 271:16</ref> | # Those who are listening to the kiddush shouldn't drink until the making the kiddush drinks.<ref>Gemara Brachot 47a</ref> However, if they each have their own cup they may drink without waiting.<ref>Yerushalmi, Tosfot Brachot 47a, Tosfot Pesachim 106a s.v. gachin, Maharam Chalavah Pesachim 106a s.v. chazyey, Shulchan Aruch 271:16</ref> | ||
# Those listening don't need to drink a melo lugmav and any amount is sufficient.<ref>The Levush 271:14 writes that those listening should drink a melo lugmav. However, the Maggid Mishna 29:7 writes that those listening only need to drink a bit and not melo lugmav. The Taz 271:17, Eliya Rabba 271:29, and Mishna Brurah 271:71 follow the Maggid Mishna.</ref> | |||
# Those listening to kiddush don't have to drink to fulfill their obligation but it is a mitzvah for them to drink.<ref> | # Those listening to kiddush don't have to drink to fulfill their obligation but it is a mitzvah for them to drink.<ref> | ||
Eruvin 40b and Pesachim 108b imply that only the one drinking needs to drink and no one else but Pesachim 106a and perhaps 108b imply that everyone listening should drink. The Rosh Pesachim 10:16 writes that although each person listening to kiddush doesn't need to drink wine to fulfill his obligation, there is nonetheless an added mitzvah to do so. Tosfot Pesachim 99b s.v. lo originally assumes that those listening to the kiddush doesn't need to drink but afterwards questions that assumption. The Rambam Shabbat 29:7 implies that there is an obligation for everyone to drink. Maggid Mishna 29:7 just adds that those listening don't need to drink a melo lugmav. Shulchan Aruch OC 271:14 rules like the Rosh that as long as the one reciting kiddush drinks that is sufficient for everyone to fulfill their obligation but it is a mitzvah for them to drink. Mishna Brurah 271:83 agrees.</ref> They don't need their own cup and may drink from the cup of kiddush.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 271:14</ref> It isn't considered invalid for kiddush after the one reciting the kiddush drank and then they drink.<ref>Shaar Hatziyun 271:89 explains that even though if those listening had their own cup they should ensure that the cup should be valid for kiddush and not drunk from beforehand, however, if they are drinking from the kiddush cup after the one who recited kiddush drank it isn't considered invalid as their drinking is considered part of the original drinking of the one who recited kiddush.</ref> | Eruvin 40b and Pesachim 108b imply that only the one drinking needs to drink and no one else but Pesachim 106a and perhaps 108b imply that everyone listening should drink. The Rosh Pesachim 10:16 writes that although each person listening to kiddush doesn't need to drink wine to fulfill his obligation, there is nonetheless an added mitzvah to do so. Tosfot Pesachim 99b s.v. lo originally assumes that those listening to the kiddush doesn't need to drink but afterwards questions that assumption. The Rambam Shabbat 29:7 implies that there is an obligation for everyone to drink. Maggid Mishna 29:7 just adds that those listening don't need to drink a melo lugmav. Shulchan Aruch OC 271:14 rules like the Rosh that as long as the one reciting kiddush drinks that is sufficient for everyone to fulfill their obligation but it is a mitzvah for them to drink. Mishna Brurah 271:83 agrees.</ref> They don't need their own cup and may drink from the cup of kiddush.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 271:14</ref> It isn't considered invalid for kiddush after the one reciting the kiddush drank and then they drink.<ref>Shaar Hatziyun 271:89 explains that even though if those listening had their own cup they should ensure that the cup should be valid for kiddush and not drunk from beforehand, however, if they are drinking from the kiddush cup after the one who recited kiddush drank it isn't considered invalid as their drinking is considered part of the original drinking of the one who recited kiddush.</ref> | ||
