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* What is the minimum amount of wine one should drink for [[Kiddish]]? S"A 271:13 writes that for kiddush one must drink a Melo Lugmav, which is a cheekful and is the equivalent of the majority of a [[Revi'it]]. Kitzur S"A 77:9 agrees. Kaf HaChaim 271:83 and Or Letzion (vol 2, 20:22) write that it's preferable to drink a complete [[Reviyit]]. On the other hand, Biur Halacha 174:6 s.v. VeChen writes that since there's a dispute whether the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the [[Bracha Achrona]] of the wine, one should preferably drink only a Melo Lugmav and not a [[Reviyit]]. Then he ends off by referencing the Shulchan Aruch's ruling in 190:3 and says that one should have intent that the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the wine before the meal. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p 274) simply writes that one must drink a Melo Lugav and doesn't say it's preferable to drink a [[Reviyit]]. | * What is the minimum amount of wine one should drink for [[Kiddish]]? S"A 271:13 writes that for kiddush one must drink a Melo Lugmav, which is a cheekful and is the equivalent of the majority of a [[Revi'it]]. Kitzur S"A 77:9 agrees. Kaf HaChaim 271:83 and Or Letzion (vol 2, 20:22) write that it's preferable to drink a complete [[Reviyit]]. On the other hand, Biur Halacha 174:6 s.v. VeChen writes that since there's a dispute whether the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the [[Bracha Achrona]] of the wine, one should preferably drink only a Melo Lugmav and not a [[Reviyit]]. Then he ends off by referencing the Shulchan Aruch's ruling in 190:3 and says that one should have intent that the [[Birkat HaMazon]] will exempt the wine before the meal. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p 274) simply writes that one must drink a Melo Lugav and doesn't say it's preferable to drink a [[Reviyit]]. | ||
* See also S"A 190:3 who writes that because there is a dispute whether one is obligated to make a [[Bracha Achrona]] for a [[Kezayit]] or a [[Reviyit]] of wine, one shouldn't enter into that dispute and for a Kos Shel Bracha, when one needs to drink more than a Melo Lugmav, one's only option is to drink more than a [[Reviyit]]. Kaf HaChaim 271:84 quotes the Pri Megadim who explains that this doesn't apply to Kiddush before a meal since the [[Birkat HaMazon]] exempts the wine from a [[Bracha Achrona]]. | * See also S"A 190:3 who writes that because there is a dispute whether one is obligated to make a [[Bracha Achrona]] for a [[Kezayit]] or a [[Reviyit]] of wine, one shouldn't enter into that dispute and for a Kos Shel Bracha, when one needs to drink more than a Melo Lugmav, one's only option is to drink more than a [[Reviyit]]. Kaf HaChaim 271:84 quotes the Pri Megadim who explains that this doesn't apply to Kiddush before a meal since the [[Birkat HaMazon]] exempts the wine from a [[Bracha Achrona]]. | ||
* Mishna Brurah 272:30 rules that the obligation to have most of a [[Revi'it]] applies regardless of which drink you use for kiddush. Rav Tzvi [[Pesach]] Frank in Har Tzvi 1:159, however, says that since the Taz (210:1) holds that one would be obligated to say a beracha acharona on less than a [[Revi'it]] of liquor because less than that already is considered to be significant enough for a beracha acharona, the same would apply for how much you need to drink for [[kiddish]]. In regards to [[Bracha Achrona]], Mishna | * Mishna Brurah 272:30 rules that the obligation to have most of a [[Revi'it]] applies regardless of which drink you use for kiddush. Rav Tzvi [[Pesach]] Frank in Har Tzvi 1:159, however, says that since the Taz (210:1) holds that one would be obligated to say a beracha acharona on less than a [[Revi'it]] of liquor because less than that already is considered to be significant enough for a beracha acharona, the same would apply for how much you need to drink for [[kiddish]]. In regards to [[Bracha Achrona]], Mishna Brurah 190:14 based on the Magen Avraham 190 also writes that there's no difference between wine and other drinks in opposition to the Taz's opinion in that regard as well. </ref> | ||
# For [[Kiddish]], the [[Revi'it]] should be considered to be 4.4oz. <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Revi'it]] for kiddush on [[Shabbat]] (using the method of measuring finger-widths) should be 4.42 oz.</ref> | # For [[Kiddish]], the [[Revi'it]] should be considered to be 4.4oz. <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Revi'it]] for kiddush on [[Shabbat]] (using the method of measuring finger-widths) should be 4.42 oz.</ref> | ||
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==Preparing the cup for Kiddish== | ==Preparing the cup for Kiddish== | ||
# Some authorities say that one may not use a plastic or paper cup for [[Kiddish]], however, many authorities permit but agree that it's preferable to use a real cup. <ref> Sh"t Igrot Moshe O"C 3:39 forbids using a plastic or paper cup as they aren't considered a nice cup and it's worse off than a broken cup (which is forbidden by S"A 183:3. Mishna | # Some authorities say that one may not use a plastic or paper cup for [[Kiddish]], however, many authorities permit but agree that it's preferable to use a real cup. <ref> Sh"t Igrot Moshe O"C 3:39 forbids using a plastic or paper cup as they aren't considered a nice cup and it's worse off than a broken cup (which is forbidden by S"A 183:3. Mishna Brurah 183:11 says that even if it is just the base that is cracked one should still be strict.) The Radiance of [[Shabbos]] (page 44) points out that this doesn't depend on the quality of the plastic at all. Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 12:23 differentiates between a cup that would be used for hot liquids and could be reused and one that's ruined after it's first use. Even if one personally doesn't reuse it, it is still considered a kli. This is true for kiddush, [[havdala]], and [[netilat yadayim]]. Sh"t Beer Moshe 5:55 on the other hand, only allows cup that are commonly reused and therefore only permits plastic cups and not paper cups, or small shot glasses because those are rarely reused. Sh"t Az Nidabru 6:49 is the most lenient allowing any disposal cup, however, it's still preferable to use a better cup as a hidur mitzva. Shevut Yitzchak (vol 1, 4:5, pg 48) in name of Rav Elyashiv and Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] vol 2) concur with the lenient opinion. See further: [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/727120/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/kiddush_with_disposable_cups Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz on yutorah.org]. Although many poskim, say that using two plastic cups doesn't help at all, see [http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/?id=62394 Rav Dov Lior] for the explanation of it, though he writes that he doesn't necessarily think that it helps the issue. </ref> | ||
# The cup of [[Kiddish]] should be rinsed out before being used if it isn't already clean. <ref> S"A 183:1 writes that one should wash out the cup used for Kiddush, both the inside and outside, however, if the cup is clean it doesn't need to be cleaned out. Chaye Adam ([[Shabbat]] 6:13) agrees. Mishna Brurah 183:3 writes that it is proper to clean it out unless it is completely clean. </ref> | # The cup of [[Kiddish]] should be rinsed out before being used if it isn't already clean. <ref> S"A 183:1 writes that one should wash out the cup used for Kiddush, both the inside and outside, however, if the cup is clean it doesn't need to be cleaned out. Chaye Adam ([[Shabbat]] 6:13) agrees. Mishna Brurah 183:3 writes that it is proper to clean it out unless it is completely clean. </ref> | ||
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== Women == | == Women == | ||
# The Mitzvah of Kiddush is unique in that women are obligated even though it is a Mitzvat Aseh She’Hazman Grama, based on a Talmudic derivation that since women are obligated by the prohibitions of [[Shabbat]], they are also obligated in the positive commandments of the day.<ref>On [[Berachot]] 20b, Rava says that women are obligated in [[Kiddish]] on a Deoritta level because the torah compares the positive and negative commandments of [[Shabbat]] by swiching the terms "Zachor" and "Shamor" implying that anyone who is obligated in the negative commands is also obligated in the positive ones. S"A 271:2 and Kitzur S"A 77:4 codify this as the halacha. A woman's obligation applies both at night (Mishna | # The Mitzvah of Kiddush is unique in that women are obligated even though it is a Mitzvat Aseh She’Hazman Grama, based on a Talmudic derivation that since women are obligated by the prohibitions of [[Shabbat]], they are also obligated in the positive commandments of the day.<ref>On [[Berachot]] 20b, Rava says that women are obligated in [[Kiddish]] on a Deoritta level because the torah compares the positive and negative commandments of [[Shabbat]] by swiching the terms "Zachor" and "Shamor" implying that anyone who is obligated in the negative commands is also obligated in the positive ones. S"A 271:2 and Kitzur S"A 77:4 codify this as the halacha. A woman's obligation applies both at night (Mishna Brurah 271:3) and during the day (Mishna Brurah 289:6). Maharam Chalava pesachim 106a "bayom mai" disagrees and says that women aren't obligated during the day </ref> | ||
# Since women are obligated on a biblical level, they should either listen to their husband or hear another adult make [[Kiddish]] and answer [[Amen]], or say it themselves. <ref> Since women are obligated in [[Kiddish]] on a biblical level, they can definitely make [[Kiddish]] for themselves. Additionally since a man is obligated, a women can fulfill her obligation with the man's [[Kiddish]] as they both have a Deorittah obligation. According the Magan Avraham that one fulfills the Deorittah obligation in [[prayer]], if a man and women have both already prayed, they can fulfill each other's obligation since they have equal obligations. However, if the man prayed and the women didn't, then the man is obligated on a Rabbinical level and the women is obligated on a Biblical level. If so, Rav Yechezkel Landau in Dagul Mirvavah 271:2 asks, whether the women can't fulfill her obligation with the man's reading, or perhaps she can because nonetheless, men are able to fulfill the obligation of others using Arevim Zeh LaZeh (the side is also not definite because the Rosh ([[Brachot]] 3:13 last line) writes that women aren't included in Arevim). He leaves it unanswered and the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 77:4 writes that it's preferable that women say the [[kiddish]] along with the one making [[Kiddish]] so that they are fulfilling their own obligation. However, the Sh"t Rabbi Akiva Eiger 1:7 argues that certainly women are included in Arevim Zeh LaZeh (and explains that the Rosh was talking about mitzvot that women are exempt from) and so a man with a Derabbanan obligation can fulfill a woman's obligation even if she is has a Deorittah obligation. Aruch HaShulchan 271:6 and Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 24) concur. </ref> | # Since women are obligated on a biblical level, they should either listen to their husband or hear another adult make [[Kiddish]] and answer [[Amen]], or say it themselves. <ref> Since women are obligated in [[Kiddish]] on a biblical level, they can definitely make [[Kiddish]] for themselves. Additionally since a man is obligated, a women can fulfill her obligation with the man's [[Kiddish]] as they both have a Deorittah obligation. According the Magan Avraham that one fulfills the Deorittah obligation in [[prayer]], if a man and women have both already prayed, they can fulfill each other's obligation since they have equal obligations. However, if the man prayed and the women didn't, then the man is obligated on a Rabbinical level and the women is obligated on a Biblical level. If so, Rav Yechezkel Landau in Dagul Mirvavah 271:2 asks, whether the women can't fulfill her obligation with the man's reading, or perhaps she can because nonetheless, men are able to fulfill the obligation of others using Arevim Zeh LaZeh (the side is also not definite because the Rosh ([[Brachot]] 3:13 last line) writes that women aren't included in Arevim). He leaves it unanswered and the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 77:4 writes that it's preferable that women say the [[kiddish]] along with the one making [[Kiddish]] so that they are fulfilling their own obligation. However, the Sh"t Rabbi Akiva Eiger 1:7 argues that certainly women are included in Arevim Zeh LaZeh (and explains that the Rosh was talking about mitzvot that women are exempt from) and so a man with a Derabbanan obligation can fulfill a woman's obligation even if she is has a Deorittah obligation. Aruch HaShulchan 271:6 and Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 24) concur. </ref> | ||
# A women can fulfill the obligation of her husband and family. <ref> S"A 271:2 writes that since women are obligated in [[Kiddish]] on a Deorittah level, they can fulfill the obligation of a man who also has such an obligation. Even though the Maharshal and Bach argue with this, the Taz, Magan Araham, Gra, Mishna Brurah 271:4 all agree with Shulchan Aruch that a women can fulfill the obligation of a man. Nonetheless, Eliyah Rabbah, Derech Chaim, and Mishna Brurah 271:4 write that it's preferable that a women not fulfill the obligation of men not in her family because it's not entirely appropriate. </ref> | # A women can fulfill the obligation of her husband and family. <ref> S"A 271:2 writes that since women are obligated in [[Kiddish]] on a Deorittah level, they can fulfill the obligation of a man who also has such an obligation. Even though the Maharshal and Bach argue with this, the Taz, Magan Araham, Gra, Mishna Brurah 271:4 all agree with Shulchan Aruch that a women can fulfill the obligation of a man. Nonetheless, Eliyah Rabbah, Derech Chaim, and Mishna Brurah 271:4 write that it's preferable that a women not fulfill the obligation of men not in her family because it's not entirely appropriate. </ref> | ||
