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# Lastly, some poskim hold that if the woman feels her body trembling that is considered a hargasha.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 183:1 based on Rambam Isurei Biyah 5:17</ref> | # Lastly, some poskim hold that if the woman feels her body trembling that is considered a hargasha.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 183:1 based on Rambam Isurei Biyah 5:17</ref> | ||
# There are also a few occurrences which chazal state could be confused with a hargasha. Therefore, if blood is found at one of these times according to many poskim there is a concern that there was a hargasha even if she didn't feel one. These examples include: going to the bathroom, doing an internal bedika, and having tashmish.<ref>Niddah 57b, Pitchei Teshuva 183:1 citing the Chavot Daat 190 and Sidrei Tahara</ref> | # There are also a few occurrences which chazal state could be confused with a hargasha. Therefore, if blood is found at one of these times according to many poskim there is a concern that there was a hargasha even if she didn't feel one. These examples include: going to the bathroom, doing an internal bedika, and having tashmish.<ref>Niddah 57b, Pitchei Teshuva 183:1 citing the Chavot Daat 190 and Sidrei Tahara</ref> | ||
## According to many poskim if a ketem is found within a short time period after going to the bathroom or tashmish there is a concern that the ketem is really a result of a hargasha and as such it is tameh on a Biblical level in which case there are no leniencies of ketamim. However, other poskim aren't concerned about this.<ref>The Sidrei Tahara 190:36 and 190:67 is concerned that there was a hargasha during when she went to the bathroom or had tashmish and didn't feel the hargasha as the Gemara Niddah 57b discusses. If so, a ketem found afterwards is potentially deoritta and if so there are no leniencies of ketamim. This is codified in the Badei Hashulchan 190:104. However, Rav Ovadia Yosef in Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 411 quotes the Pardes Rimonim who argues since the earlier poskim didn't mention this distinction. Furthermore, it might be an unlikely concern and she already has a chazaka of being tahora. Therefore, Rav Ovadia concludes that a ketem after these occurrences is treated like any other ketem. Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Niddah Shiur 93, 100) agreed with Rav Ovadia. | |||
* Chazon Ish 90:1 is lenient regarding a ketem after mey raglayim but not tashmish.</ref> | |||
## If a woman sees blood on a toilet paper after going to the bathroom or in the toilet she should consult with a doctor and rabbi. Some poskim hold that the blood on the toilet paper isn’t an issue of a ketem since the toilet paper isn’t mekabel tumah. Additionally, the blood in the water or on the toilet isn’t an issue of ketem since they aren’t mekabel tumah. Other poskim hold that we can't employ the leniencies of ketamim since she saw this ketem right after going to the bathroom and perhaps this blood came with a hargasha and she didn’t realize.<ref>Sidrei Tahara and Chavot Daat are concerned that anytime a woman sees blood when she goes to the bathroom there’s a concern that there was a hargasha and she didn’t realize. This is based on their understanding of the Gemara Niddah 57b. See Machasit Hashekel 190:1 for the two ways of reading of this gemara. Some poskim argue that we're not concerned for a hargasha since it isn't common and she has a chazaka of being tahora. See Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 411. Regarding toilet paper being mekabel tumah see further based on Igrot Moshe 3:53. Regarding the water in the toilet bowl, Rabbi Willig cited the Taharat Yisrael who was lenient since the water is connected to the water in the reservoir. </ref> | |||
===If there is a Hargasha without any Blood=== | ===If there is a Hargasha without any Blood=== | ||
# If a woman felt her mekor open and didn't find any blood she is nonetheless tameh.<ref>Trumat Hadeshen 246, Shulchan Aruch YD 190:1</ref> if she's not sure if she had such a hargasha she's tahor.<Ref>Nodeh Beyehuda YD 2:118, Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 334</ref> If she checks immediately and doesn't find any blood there is a dispute if she is tahor.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 190:5 quotes the Kereti Upeleti as holding that she is tahor and the Chavot Daat as holding that she is tameh.</ref> | # If a woman felt her mekor open and didn't find any blood she is nonetheless tameh.<ref>Trumat Hadeshen 246, Shulchan Aruch YD 190:1</ref> if she's not sure if she had such a hargasha she's tahor.<Ref>Nodeh Beyehuda YD 2:118, Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 334</ref> If she checks immediately and doesn't find any blood there is a dispute if she is tahor.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 190:5 quotes the Kereti Upeleti as holding that she is tahor and the Chavot Daat as holding that she is tameh.</ref> | ||
