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==Size of Karpas== | ==Size of Karpas== | ||
# One should eat a piece of Karpas that's smaller than a Kezayit so as not to get into a dispute about Bracha Achrona. <ref> Bet Yosef brings a dispute between the Rosh, Sh"t HaRashba, Tur, Hagahot Maimoniot, Hilchot Chametz U'Matzah 8:4 who hold that less than a Kezayit of Karpas is needed because the Karpas is only meant as a way to get the children to ask. However, Rambam (Hilchot Chametz U'Matzah 8:2) holds that one must have a Kezayit of karpas. [Another Rishon, the Rashbetz (Yafeh Shamuah pg 35) holds like Rambam because the washing of Urchatz only applies to dipping a vegtable of a the size of a Kezayit.] S"A 473:6 rules like the Rosh against Rambam because of the issue brought up by the Sh"t Maharil 25. There's a dispute between Rashbam, who holds the Bracha on Karpas covers the Maror, and the Tosfot (Pesachim 115a D"H VeHadar in name of the Ri), who holds that the Maror doesn't need a bracha as it's part of the meal. Therefore suggests the Maharil in order to satisfy the opinion of the Rashbam one should have less than a Kezayit so that one doesn't have to make a Bracha Achrona before the meal and put oneself in doubt about the Bracha on Maror. S"A 473:6 rules in accordance with Maharil. So rules Mishna Brurah 473:53 and Sh"t Chazon Ovadyah 17. http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/743796/Rabbi%20Josh%20Flug/Karpas:%20The%20Vegetable%20at%20the%20Beginning%20of%20the%20Seder </ref> | # One should eat a piece of Karpas that's smaller than a Kezayit so as not to get into a dispute about Bracha Achrona. <ref> Bet Yosef brings a dispute between the Rosh, Sh"t HaRashba, Tur, Hagahot Maimoniot, Hilchot Chametz U'Matzah 8:4 who hold that less than a Kezayit of Karpas is needed because the Karpas is only meant as a way to get the children to ask. However, Rambam (Hilchot Chametz U'Matzah 8:2) holds that one must have a Kezayit of karpas. [Another Rishon, the Rashbetz (Yafeh Shamuah pg 35) holds like Rambam because the washing of Urchatz only applies to dipping a vegtable of a the size of a Kezayit.] S"A 473:6 rules like the Rosh against Rambam because of the issue brought up by the Sh"t Maharil 25. There's a dispute between Rashbam, who holds the Bracha on Karpas covers the Maror, and the Tosfot (Pesachim 115a D"H VeHadar in name of the Ri), who holds that the Maror doesn't need a bracha as it's part of the meal. Therefore suggests the Maharil in order to satisfy the opinion of the Rashbam one should have less than a Kezayit so that one doesn't have to make a Bracha Achrona before the meal and put oneself in doubt about the Bracha on Maror. S"A 473:6 rules in accordance with Maharil. So rules Mishna Brurah 473:53 and Sh"t Chazon Ovadyah 17. http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/743796/Rabbi%20Josh%20Flug/Karpas:%20The%20Vegetable%20at%20the%20Beginning%20of%20the%20Seder </ref> | ||
# If one did eat more than a Kezayit one shouldn't make a bracha of Boreh Nefashot. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach vol 2 pg 42) </ref> | # If one did eat more than a Kezayit one shouldn't make a bracha of Boreh Nefashot. <ref> Mishna Brurah 673:56 writes that even if one did eat more than a Kezayit one should not make a Boreh Nefashot because we want the HaAdama to cover the Maror. However the Gra holds that since the Ashkenaz Minhag is to make a bracha on each cup of wine, it must be that we hold that the Haggadah is an interruption and if so, one should make a Boreh Nefashot. Nonetheless, Buir Halacha says that the Magan Avrham would argue that the reason we make a bracha on each cup is because each is it's own mitzvah and one can make the same claim that Karpas and Maror are separate Mitzvot. Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach vol 2 pg 42) concurs. </ref> | ||
==Leaning during Karpas== | ==Leaning during Karpas== | ||
# There's a dispute whether one shouldn't or shouldn't lean during Karpas and it's preferable not to lean, but one if one wants one is permitted. <ref> There's a dispute in the Rishonim if one should lean during Karpas. Shibolei HaLeket (92b) writes that one shouldn't lean (probably for the reason that Karpas represents slavery and leaning represents freedom). However, Avudraham writes that one should lean during Karpas [perhaps the reasoning is that it's a mitzvah of the night and has some resemblance of freedom; see R. Moshe Shternbuch, Moadim U'Zmanim 7:183 who says that the Rambam would agree with the Avudraham]. The majority of Achronim including Mateh Moshe 625, Birkei Yosef 673:14, Shulchan Gavoha 673:29. Gra in Kiseh Eliyahu 673:4, and Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach vol 2 pg 40) rule like the Shibolei HaLeket and so one doesn't need to lean. Nonetheless, since by Maror is one wants one can lean (Bet Yosef 675, Magan Avraham, and Mishna Brurah 675:14), one is certainly allowed to lean during Karpas. </ref> | # There's a dispute whether one shouldn't or shouldn't lean during Karpas and it's preferable not to lean, but one if one wants one is permitted. <ref> There's a dispute in the Rishonim if one should lean during Karpas. Shibolei HaLeket (92b) writes that one shouldn't lean (probably for the reason that Karpas represents slavery and leaning represents freedom). However, Avudraham writes that one should lean during Karpas [perhaps the reasoning is that it's a mitzvah of the night and has some resemblance of freedom; see R. Moshe Shternbuch, Moadim U'Zmanim 7:183 who says that the Rambam would agree with the Avudraham]. The majority of Achronim including Mateh Moshe 625, Birkei Yosef 673:14, Shulchan Gavoha 673:29. Gra in Kiseh Eliyahu 673:4, and Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach vol 2 pg 40) rule like the Shibolei HaLeket and so one doesn't need to lean. Nonetheless, since by Maror is one wants one can lean (Bet Yosef 675, Magan Avraham, and Mishna Brurah 675:14), one is certainly allowed to lean during Karpas. </ref> | ||
